This is my first car! It has a warm 192, 4-speed, Weber, Nitrous Oxide (Madder Nitrous Australia - I'm not kiddin'!) HR Front end, 14 by 7 spitfires, 3 inch exhaust, Nissan EXA buckets, etc.
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/FC2.jpg)
The colour is peal white/custom dark blue metallic. Originally, it was grecian white/olinda green.
Cheers.
Josh. ;)
Too cool for skool josh..
;)
running NOS on the street? :o
Hey Josh.
Nice car. Wish I had mine when I was 17.
Love your ideas on a 60's style custom.
Welcome to the forum.
Regards
Alex
Nice one Josh.
An FC, "L" Plates and Nitrous Oxide.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
What an exciting combination ;)
Can't wait to see the result of the custom treatment. Maybe you could include a parachute!!!!
Welcome to the forum.
Cheers,
Craig.
ditto with what everyone else said. if you want the car low you should think about dropped spindles, especially if you want the front to be in the weeds with 14" wheels. (see my response to your hubcaps question first though!! ;D)
i am also running an ek steering wheel, but you'll have to run an ek column as well, unless you want the wheel poking you in the face as you drive along.. the ek column is a lot shorter than the fc one, to compensate for the deeper dish on the ek wheel.
here's a shot of my wheel...
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you've found the best site on the web!
AH I remember the dayz ,way back then when I was a yungun .
I used to have an old ford ???
THANK GOD I GREW UP
Dig it josh ,Watch ya mates because that combination would be a hell of a joyride.
i love it just the way it is now bud
nice one Josh, it's good to see other young guys have good taste too and you didn't buy a commodore for your first car. Have fun
Miikael
Well done Josh ditto again too what evry1 else said.
Good to see,better than 4cyl with fart can and blow off thingy ;).
Cheers BRAD....
Josh, Top looking wheels. Most young fellas want a chook cooker. Good to see you have style. Welcome.. Kev ;D ;D
nice car josh
i reckon she would go when the NOS kicks in!!!
twitch
Thanks twitch,
She's been a bit neglected over the last few months. School and work seem to have taken over! I still see that ray of light whenever I start her up...Nothing comes close.
Updates so far... not a lot, just a lot of interior work. looks pretty good.
I'll post some progress photos soon.
Now I'm looking for a nice set of wheels. Billets look the go, but I'm afraid I just can't make myself purchase wheels which are worth more than the car...
Don't suppose anyone has a set of Dragway billets or other wheels they would like to part with?
Cheers,
Josh
Hi Josh.
I can get a set of the 5 spoke Dragways with 95% tread Bridgstone Eagers for about $950. They look very nice, but the fella has a set of Neal wheels he is using instead. Let me know if interested.
Rob J
Hi guys. Here are some photos of my new interior.
The process is long and slow...
The day was a little overcast, so hopefully they aren't too dark.
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/FC_Interior.jpg)
Here are some of the front, with my chrome glovebox and surrounds. The dice I "borrowed" from my dad's car. ;D
Hope you like it!
pain, headaches, and perseverance. ::) :P ::) - all worth it in the end ;)
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/FC_Interior_2.jpg)
Cheers,
Josh.
Josh What a great way to start out well done mate & good luck with your personal touches
Regards
Mark
:ohi josh,super machine man ! love the chrome dash,it's give'n me the need to do the same hope ya don't mine.as i've got a chrome centred woodgrain to match my poo mobile i this is a good combo,enjoyed the pic's too. ;)COL58FE 8)p.s i can only imagine the G-FORCE oh yeh ;D
Hi guys.
Thanks for the praise!
COL58FE - I'm glad my FC was influential to a certain degree. Be warned though...when you are cruising and there is the slightest hint of sun...YOU NEED TO WEAR SUNNIES 8) but I suppose the dice sort of block it out. looks cool though.
I'll post some photos of my engine bay next. Beware though. it's more go than show, and there is a hint of F**d in there.
Cheers, Josh
(Ol Girl 58).
well done josh
that is a ripper first car
now you have caught the fc bug you have it for life ;D
kalfe
Too right kalfe!
It's great, but it sucks too!
I bought another little car to drive around in, so as to keep the FC for weekends, and you get this: 2 insurances, 2 regos, 2 mechanical bills, tyres, oil, etc, etc, etc.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
it's a vicious cycle!
Josh
I am not real sure with the ACT rules but is nitrous ok to use on your L's there?
IMO I wouldn't worry to much about a set of billets, they look a bit mid nineties, I bought a set of mags for my FE when I was 18 and then sold them to a mate who had a FC wagon when I was 19, he took them of and sold them to another guy with a torana, I ran moon disc's for a few years and then decided to have a go at making up some hubcaps, I get comments on my hubcaps everywere I go and I am glad I went that way.
If you bring it right down to the bump stops it may look cool with floating hubcaps, this is when you have your hubcap simply bolted to your stub axle, it means your front hubcaps wont move, you can hide the rears with fender skirts. in the end the car has a hovering effect as it moves along without the hubcap turning. to show of this effect you need to buy or make up some caps that features that show that the hubcap is not turnig, you can even glue on a dummy valve.
Then you can fit one of my flamethrower kits and make your hovering vehicle look rocket propelled, this will really trip out those ricer boys just before you shut em down when you open the bottle.
I hope you kick some ricer butt in your old holden, I to have a 192 in a FC, yesterday I was running a little late for a job interview when a winged honda integra tried me at a couple of sets of lights and i just kept beeting him till we came up to a set of lights were he pulled in behind me when we were off again i decided it was getting a bit risky and backed off and he went flying past at about 6000rpm, i didnt want a race, I just wanted to be on time. Dont forget you have no pollution restrictions, more cubes and less weight than a R34 GTR Skyline. I have a neighbour with a new lancer evo look alike running massive wings and wheels and a big dash board screen, he's tried to go me the other night but we both had to turn, I can't wait to see him at a red light, he has a massive tailpipe and tacho and its a 4 cyl auto probably stock as a rock from the tail pipe forward as is pretty typical with these cars. After I shut him down my other neighbour with the 59 chev can give him another show of low technology.
Dont get into to much trouble but, I lost my liscence to a total of 26 demerit points when I was on my P's with a limit of 4 and spent alot of hard earned bucks on neg driving and speeding fines wich really sucked.
Hi all,
Upon looking back at the photo's, I found it hard to believe that they were taken three years ago. Where's the time gone?
In all that time (which has pretty much been last year, slotting in between uni and work), I've spent a lot of time sorting out the FC's running gear, which included revamping the FC's wiring, battery charge, and putting the car on restricted Special Interest registration, so now it comes out only on special occasions.
So, with the help of my dad, I refitted the interior, and made a false floor for the boot, with a recessed battery box. I'm in the process of making up some sides, too.
On order are a set of 15 inch ROH Venturo wheels (7 inches on the front, 8 on the rear... Â 8)), and rust repairs are happening very soon.
Soon to come are lowered springs, a set of new dust seals, new wind lacing, a centre console, and, funds permitting, a Billet-esque steering wheel.
Pics will be coming soon!
This site has been amazing for people offeringideas and advice, which has helped me on many occassions to get that step closer to achieve my dream - to get my FC up to my standards and on the road!
Thanks heaps!
Josh
Hey everyone.
I just got my digital camera, so I thought I'd post a rew progress shots. The big news so far is that the wheels I ordered for the car came. That so far has made my year! I've had quite a lot of rust removed from the boot lip, and the bottom of the right hand rear door. The boot is full of new rare spares rubbers, polished kick strips, guard spears, and lenses.
I've owned the car for 4 years, most of which my dad and I have spent fixing the car where the previous owner thrashed it and consequently ran it into the ground.
A false floor has been made for the boot, to create a completely flat floor, and just to be a little different.
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/FC1.jpg)
Wheels are 15 x 7" and 8" ROH Venturos. They took quite a while, but I think It was well worth the wait. I sold the spitfires to a guy who was putting them on his 20 foot boat trailer. Best place for them, I think!
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/ROH.jpg)
'Frank' is powered by a red 192, with a lumpy cam, redline manifold, a single Weber and Nitrous is back too. The system needs a thorough sorting out.There's a commodore radiator in there too. There's a HR disc front end that ensures the car stops, and a Borg Warner rear end with Chrysler drums. Transmission is an Mazda RX series 4 speed.
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/Engine1.jpg)
Told Ya!
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/OZNOS.jpg)
Another
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/bay2.jpg)
Overkill?
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/Exhaust.jpg)
Here's the false floor, along with the battery, and the box of bits
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/boot.jpg)
Some of the cancer. Unfortunately there's still more...
Quick pic inside. There are Nissan EXA Turbo buckets, along with an EK column, and a Skyline heater. The car also runs a Commodore electronic ignition. Inside still needs quite a bit of sorting.
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/inside.jpg)
Out the back...
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/back.jpg)
And there you go.
(http://www.fefcholden.org.au/forum/attachments/ttt.jpg)
That as it is for the time being, although there is still a lot to do.
I am saving for a respray at the moment.I'm aiming for two-tone green, which should happen at the end of the year/early next year.
Thanks to everyone who has offered advice and shared their wisdom. Is has been greatly appreciated and both myself and my dad have learnt a great deal. I think the FC has almost weaned him off his Mini fetish!
Thanks,
Josh
(ol Girl)
Hey Josh.
Car is coming along nicely.
Thanks for sharing the pics.
Regards
Alex
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/FC1.jpg)
Hi all.
All of my previous pictures have disappeared since the site has been "redeveloped", so I thought I'd post a new picture.
Aesthetically, the car hasn't been altered, but now has a peep mirror and half moon headlight covers. I now have a half leather wrapped billet steering wheel, an FC bonnet mascot, and a few other things to be installed, along with door and boot rubber, dust strips, and kick plates.
Soon to come are a few more inches out of the suspension and maybe a rear venetian, but the jury is out on that one. What do you guys (and girls) think? Venetian or not?
I haven't driven the car "properly" for roughly two years - the car is in Hobart and I have been in Launceston studying at University - thankfully I graduate this year (two weeks to go ;D) and I'll get back into the car. I've missed it heaps!
When I went back to Hobart last weekend the battery was dead, I found a hole in the exhaust pipe and cobwebs in the engine bay, but they're the least of my worries. There's still a bit of rust in the lower rear and front quarters, sills, doors and left hand A pillar. Other than that, it's all pretty straight.
Over the last two years whilst I've been away I've been planning what I'm going to do with the car - initially it was going to be a 50's/60's custom, but my ideas have since evolved. I am looking at a "pro-tourer" concept - but sticking with 15 inch wheels and updating the suspension and brakes, and considering dropping a mid 90's/early 00's BMW straight six into the engine bay. I'll have the money to get things happening ;)
All of this, whilst keeping the exterior as conservative as possible. That'll fix 'em 8) 8) ;D
I can't wait for Summer, this FC's going to be doing a lot of cruising!
Cheers,
Ol Girl 58
Hey Josh.
As I said a few years back...."Car is coming along nicely."
Great to see some renewed enthusiasm for the car.
I went back and restored your pics for you as well. 8)
Regards
Alex
Thanks for restoring my pictures and kind words, Alex.
My enthusiasm never waned - it increased more than anything - as I have had time out from the car I have been able to collect ideas. The good thing is that I haven't spent a huge amount transforming the car into a certain "style" just yet - I'm just waiting and collecting ideas.
As much as I like the old-school look, I also like the idea of modern running gear.
The cars that have had the biggest impact on me include
* Blue FJ that was in Street Machine a few years back, powered by a BMW M3 motor
* EH Holden in Street Machine early this year (?) powered by a Nissan Skyline GTR motor
* Yellow HR in Street Machine a few years ago powered by a VL Turbo motor
I want my car to look understated and conservative, but have the power to surprise a few people (including myself).
Cheers,
Josh
The M3 motor would be the ducks nuts.. although I'd hate to be pricing out parts for it.
that FJ is stuck in my mind too.
Had the pleasure to take a new BMW 335i (twin turbo 3.0L 6) for a couple of days while the missus had her X3 in for a service... WOW it's my new dream car.
the BMW 6 is a sweet sweet donk.
Cheers
Ed
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Hi all,
I just thought that I'd post a few more progress shots up. Nothing huge as such, but I finally fixed the rear ride height. The rear of the car now sits two and a half inches lower than previous. A pretty good effort for 15 X 8 wheels and tyres, I think! A big thanks goes out to my mate and fellow car nut Bob (a died-in-the-wool hotrodder who is constantly pressuring me to 'chop it') - who has nicknamed the car 'arse-dragger', for obvious reason 8).
And finally, the car now has a billet steering wheel, which tidies up the interior quite well. Again, special thanks goes to Bob, who hand spun the aluminium/billet Boss.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/P2110466.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/P2110461.jpg)
Thanks for reading ;)
Kind regards,
Josh
(Ol Girl 58)
Great story Josh, great to see how it has progressed through the years.
Keep up the good work. ;)
Hi all,
I thought I'd update the forum on the lastest movements with my FC, Frank. I realised that as of tomorrow it will have been one year since the last post on this thread. A lot has occurred since. I should mention that this is the first car project that I have undertaken - a lot of careful planning has taken place, as I don't want the car to end up as an abandoned project. This FC was my first car, which I have had for 9 years. I feel now is the time to give it a birthday, which has turned out to be a drawn out labour of love. The goal is to get the car ready for the Perth nationals in 2012 - maybe not the paint, but mechanically ready, at least. I aim to drive it over there with my dad, Peter, who has been supportive all the way.
The plan is to have a relatively unassuming, sleeper FC. The first steps toward this plan have been to refit the original steering wheel and install a venetian blind. The body will be painted a mid green, and the roof/side flashes/boot will be white. The interior will be dark green and black, retrimmed in the original FC pattern, the front bucket seats from an Austin A40 will be fitted. I haven't decided on wheels, but I am leaning towards 15" billets - manufacturer yet to be decided.
I have purchased a Borg Warner disc braked LSD rear from a Fairlane which I will have narrowed, and I will match the rear discs with fronts from Hoppers Stoppers. I intend to utilise a Tremec TKO five speed, and a rack from Rod's Rack's incorporating a collapsible steering column. The end goal is to have the car set up with a hot 6, but be able to run a small block V8 in the [distant] future with the hard work already done [and satisfying engineers and the transport department].
Initially, I was going to recondition the [tired] 186 in Frank, but when a 202 came up for the right price, I bought it. I thought that putting a 202 in place of the 186 would just be a matter of literally swapping the motor, but I was not prepared for the registration hassles that took place. Tips for young players...
Update 1 (April 11, 2010):
My first bit of progress is the motor. In my haste, I intially sprouted on the forum that it was a 202 stroked to 235 cubic inches. This is incorrect. It is 213.
I purchased the motor from a bloke in the Blue Mountains, New South Wales, who had it in an LJ Torana. I cannot speak highly enough of the seller. He is a perfectionist - he was honest, thorough and had the motor rebuilt and converted to ULP before it made the trek to Tasmania - he supplied photos of the whole rebuild too. I was pretty nervous about having a motor sent over that could have potentially been a basket case, but dealing with someone so open and honest really made a difference.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/cam.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/engine4.jpg)
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I have decided to keep the Webers for the time being, but ultimately I am going to run fuel injection by Sonic Injection...
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/Sonic.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/engine1.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/engine2.jpg)
Repainted, with a new rocker cover and a Romac harmonic balancer. I am considering repainting the block grey, but it's up in the air.
That's it so far, I aim for some more updates soon, with the motor in the car ready to be run in, and also of the exhaust installation.
Thanks for looking,
Ol_Girl_58
Hey, good to see progress.
That's a good looking motor.
Good luck with your bid for Perth in '12
Regards
Alex
Thanks for the update.
That's a pretty big camshaft with plenty of lift, but I know Peter would have built it right so its going to go hard.
Make sure you take a video of it running and post it up on here.
Old girl you must be running 1.65 ratio roller rockers to get that valve lift ......FC427.....
Alex - Thanks :) I hope to get Frank over to Perth - fingers crossed. The fun part will be the actual driving.
Craig - Peter (the builder, not my dad), said that you thought it had way too much lift, but he assured me it would be fine.
Mark - I'm not sure about the correct roller ratio. I may have to double check this with Peter.
With fuel injection, I am aiming for 280+ horsepower, which I don't think is unreasonable.
Cheers,
Josh
Ol_Girl_58
Here is a photo of the head compared to a stock head.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/heads.jpg)
It has double valve springs rated for the big cam (it is a solid lift cam, as it had too much lift to be hydraulic). Valves are the biggest available: IN - 1.680 (std. 1.493) EX - 1.432 (std. 1.276).
Cheers,
Ol_Girl_58
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on April 12, 2010, 09:25:16 AM
Alex - Thanks :) I hope to get Frank over to Perth - fingers crossed. The fun part will be the actual driving.
Craig - Peter (the builder, not my dad), said that you thought it had way too much lift, but he assured me it would be fine.
Mark - I'm not sure about the correct roller ratio. I may have to double check this with Peter.
With fuel injection, I am aiming for 280+ horsepower, which I don't think is unreasonable.
Cheers,
Josh
Ol_Girl_58
Josh with the work going into the motor and upgrading to EFI you would be disappointed if you didn't reach 280+
To put it into perspective we had 250ish out of the 179 race motor in the EH and the new motor (currently being built) has larger cam and Brookfield head.
Look forward to seeing the car once complete, mine is a looooooooooooooooong way off but im in no rush ;D
QuoteI thought that putting a 202 in place of the 186 would just be a matter of literally swapping the motor, but I was not prepared for the registration hassles that took place.
Nice looking engine you've got there old girl 8), that's part of the reason I went with the 3.0 litre engine the rules are a lot different for a 186 to a 202.
Pedro
Grandmasterb - 280HP is an estimated figure. I will have it dynoed firstly with my 'run in' carb to see what kind of horsepower the motor's putting out initially, then when it's run in I'll get a power figure with the Webers, and finally, I'll get a power figure with the efi.
Pedro, it's been a headache having the 202 approved - and it hasn't been yet - I've been engineer shopping and finally found an engineer who is happy to approve the car with the 202 - it is being classified as a 're-power'. Despite what I told the engineer regarding engine mods, he stated that as far as he is concerned, the motor is stock ;D ;D ;D
I am just playing it safe converting to four wheel discs and dual circuit brakes etc.
The next step is exhaust. The extractors pictured in a previous picture are Pacemakers. I have been doing a bit of research and found that HM Headers' HM9C extractors have large(r) primaries and secondaries compared to others, and are suited to multiple carb setups. They're classified as 'Torana only' and need modification to the Torana to make it fit. I'll attempt to make them fit into the FC.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/HM9C.jpg)
CraigA - Have I read correctly on the Torana Forum that you have a set in yours?
Do various extractor/header brands/designs really make a huge difference to increased power?
Kind regards,
Ol_Girl_58
Sometimes I'm a bit surprised about what people write on this forum, particularly when it comes to, maybe, bending the rules. Keep in mind that this a a public forum and anybody who wants to look has access to it.
Martin
Martin,
Point taken.
Installing the 202 in the car, modifications aside, is acceptable, provided the proper safety/engineering precautions are adhered to, as specified by the Department of Infrastructure, Energy and Resources here in Tasmania.
If the engine transplant was not viable, it would not occur.
Kind regards,
Ol_Girl_58
The rules aren't always sensible either, the RB30 engine is less than a 186 in capacity so doesn't have to meet as many requirements yet puts out more power than a 202 ???, there has been no rule bending on my build either everything I have modified has been rebuilt stronger than required.
Pedro
IT LIVES!
Yesterday, after 14 hours of tinkering and toiling, Frank is now fitted with a triple Weber powered 202 - and it is AWESOME. If the devil listened to music, it would probably sound like this motor. 8) 8) 8)
Pictures to come.
Ol_Girl_58
Gold!!!! Cant wait, did u end up using the tripple manifold I sold u??
Omalley [Tayz],
I did use that manifold, funnily enough.
Last night my mates and had the Webers good to go with the longer manifold that I had - until the time came to get it into place. Luckily I had your manifold in the boot of the FC - it fits like a charm.
Update 2 (May 5, 2010)
Hi all,
I thought I'd put up a few photos of the engine installation. It was a long, two day job, and not something that I want to repeat in the near future.
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The goodies ready to go...
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Up on the hoist, loosening the exhaust (and checking for rust in the floors - thankfully there was only a tiny bit)
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Bonnet off, radiator out, manifold and extractors off.
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Engine and gearbox out, engine bay treated to a high pressure hose to get rid of grease, dirt and road grit.
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Radiator support panel sprayed black.
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EH sump (and pickup) from old motor installed on new motor and sprayed black. LJ sump that was on the motor DID NOT fit. We found that out when the motor was hanging in the air, almost in. What a pain.
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New motor in, hole cut in firewall for Weber manifold.
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Adjusting and fiddling, making sure everything is spot on.
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Webers and extractors bolted up. Disregard the sloppy fuel lines - they're a temporary remedy until I get more time to perfect things.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/14.jpg)
Trumpets on. Man, unless you've done this, you've got no idea how fiddly it is! A hole was drilled through the firewall to get at the last bolt on the extractors.
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The [almost] finished product. It may look rough, but the plan was to at least get the car running. The hole in the firewall may look quite big - the original plan was to have a long manifold in there, but it just wouldn't fit. The hole was cut in preparation for it, but a short manifold was used instead.
The car started with the first turn of the key. ;)
A HUGE thanks goes to Mick, Tommy, Rick, and my Dad Peter, for spending the time to help get the motor in and the Webers sorted. I'm learning more as this project progresses.
Cheers,
Ol_Girl_58
While the car was up on the hoist, a few other things were fixed. Of most note was a handbrake bracket, which was relocated as it rubbed on, and consequently wore a groove in, the tailshaft. :-X :-X :-X ...more tips for young players - when you lower your car, make sure you check what else the lowering affects.
A crack in the steering column was fixed, and suspension greased.
I doubt there will be any more updates in the near future - I'm going backpacking around South America for a few months in July. If I don't die,when I come back the next thing to be sorted out will be suspension, brakes and wheels.
The front brakes will be Hopper Stopper twin piston jobs, and the rears will have ventilated disc brakes courtesy of a Ford Fairlane. I haven't worked out if I'll get a Rod's Rack, or if I'll bite the bullet and with a Rod Tech or V6 Conversions front end.
Wheels will probably American Racing Salt Flats (billet wheels are too expensive at $900 a wheel :-[)
Good work, F.U.N.ction wins over form.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on May 10, 2010, 07:01:34 PM
Radiator support panel sprayed black.
Yay! Nothing looks worse than a light coloured radiator support panel, except maybe a grey interior (eh Jack!) :P
Looks great mate, will all be worth it when you take it for the first drive.
How long have you owned the old girl for now, its been a while since i've seen it in the flesh???
Thanks Stinky and Grandmasterb.
Stinky, I couldn't agree more re: painting the support panel black/a dark colour.
Grandmasterb - I've owned Frank for nine years - I bought it when I was sixteen. I think it's been a while since anyone saw it in the flesh...
Quote from: stinky on May 10, 2010, 09:44:24 PM
Good work, F.U.N.ction wins over form.
Yay! Nothing looks worse than a light coloured radiator support panel, except maybe a grey interior (eh Jack!) :P
never pass up an opportunity for a dig, eh Stinky! :D
Ol_Girl_58, it's looking great; keep up the good work!
cheers, jack
Hi all,
Not an update as such, but last night I had my first actual drive of the car with the new motor in place, and it's full on. Driving a big (huge) cammed car with triple Webers is a different beast altogether. Last night it involved a fair bit of stalling from take off, as the engine needs plenty of revs to take off. The car was happy to putt along, but kind of like an eager dog, wanting to get off it's leash for a run. So, I was cruising in fourth, put it back to third and WHAM! I was thrust back into the seat while the car picked up like a rocket.
Most of the bugs have been ironed out, but the Webers are a bugger to tune. The car idles pretty rough, bogs down and fuels up when idling. But in saying this, the car does have good road manners and is pretty streetable. The idle is so lumpy I'm certain the car will shake to bits in time. There's a fair bit of oil coming from the oil filler, so I'll fit up a catch can to alleviate this problem. The motor shakes so much the exhaust knocks on the floor, so something will need to be done there - a bracket from the motor to somewhere on the subframe should do the trick.
The next thing on the agenda is to get the car to run well down low - it idles at 900rpm, but is a pig after this. Hopefully once I get the Webers sorted the car will be easier to drive, but if not I may look into a less aggressive cam grind. It's very tough and quite enjoyable to drive, but needs to be tamed.
I'll try to get a video up soon.
Ol_Girl_58
Good on Ya Josh,
Bring it on the run to Ross tomorrow ;D thatle sort it out ::)
Leaving Granton 9:30 ;)
Regards
Weddo
Great to hear its on the road Josh ;D
Up the idle to about 1200rpm and you'll find it will be much easier to drive and won't fuel up as much. It will also smooth it out and make it less shakey through the car. Be careful though as you will lose a little bit of engine braking as you back off in the higher gears.
As you've said you just need to get used to it. Persevere though and don't go changing cams/etc until you give it and yourself some time to get to know each other 8)
The fumes from the oil filler will be a bit of blow by - which will continue until the rings bed in correctly. This may take a few hundred miles.
A catch can is a good addition as it will keep the engines internal pressures down, with an upside of no gaskets under pressure and therefore no oil leaks. The downside will be an oily smell when you're idling at the lights.
Have you mechanically balanced the carbies yet? Very important that this is spot on prior to worrying about mixtures.
If its fueling up under all conditions then you will need to change the main jet size.
As for the mixtures - give it a flat out run in top gear then shut it off and roll to a stop. Pull the plugs and check for rich/lean by colour.
You change the air corrector to fix this high speed mixture.
Have fun!!
Been reading your updates but not had the time to post anything until now.
Super happy for you Josh - John and I know how keen you've been to get this up and running and now you have! Enjoy! ;D
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on May 11, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
Grandmasterb - I've owned Frank for nine years - I bought it when I was sixteen. I think it's been a while since anyone saw it in the flesh...
Purchased in Tassie???
Yep - from Tassie. I bought it off the son of a mechanic. He'd been trying to sell it for a while, apparently.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on May 27, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
Yep - from Tassie. I bought it off the son of a mechanic. He'd been trying to sell it for a while, apparently.
It looks ALOT like the Lucas's old car, only reason i ask.
Quote from: grandmasterb on May 31, 2010, 11:10:05 AM
It looks ALOT like the Lucas's old car, only reason i ask.
Do you have any more info? I'd love to know more about the car's history. I bought it out Magra way, from a bloke called Luke.
Grandmasterb,
Are there any features that would distinguish the Lucas's car?
Hi all,
Time for another update.
No photos this time, but I'll get some up in the coming weeks.
The Webers have been tuned and now they're running sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet ;D They took hours/days to do, but now they're done. From memory I used 50F jets, and now the car is pretty tame.
It idles at 900RPM without the car shaking to bits. Still, I'll make up a bracket going from the subframe to the block to eliminate any engine shake. I'm thinking that I'll need to speak to Marty Dean and get a deeper fuel tank made, as Frank likes to drink.
It's just the little things they are annoying. I fitted up a Sonic Injection thermostat spacer with incorporated Holley fuel pressure regulator bracket, but it fouls on the extractors, so extractors need to be trimmed a bit.
To cure the oil mist, I'm putting a catch can in, and also getting rid of the ill-fitting push-on oil cap and tigging a screw-on cap into the aluminium rocker cover. To tidy things up, I'm getting rid of the tall, clumsy looking 2 core Commodore radiator and replacing it with a custom triple core radiator that fits under the radiator support panel (refer to previous engine bay pictures). The engine bay wiring will be hidden, too.
I'm moving to dual-circuit brakes, so next on the list is to find a suitable master/booster combo to suit falcon discs. I am leaning towards Torana.
I'll get the Austin A40 seats in soon. I'm pretty chuffed the car is slowly getting that sedate sleeper identity that I am aiming for.
That's all for now.
Ol_Girl_58
Great news to see you get it sorted Josh.
The Webers are a really nice carby once set up correctly.
Get a video up soon ;)
Hi all,
I thought I'd post up some update shots (but no video yet, CraigA :-\)
It's all happening very slowly. The brakes, steering, radiator and exhaust are the things to be tackled now. The old braking system has been pulled out and a dual-circuit system is on the way. I give my mate Crossy full credit for tackling the brakes.
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The brakes still need to be plumbed in, but I am holding off as I am unsure what brakes I will run, which is dependent on whether I leave the standard HR front end in, or whether I go for a R&P set up. I will either run HQ discs, or Hoppers Stoppers twin piston jobs.
Here's a picture of the sorted Webers. I bought a Lokar 'gas' pedal whilst I was in Canada recently, so the throttle cable is being adjusted to fit. The radiator has been pulled out and is being cut down and being changed to triple core (I have always hated the radiator that was in the car when I bought it). The car is also being rewired soon, and it will all be hidden.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/P18-10-10_1632.jpg)
As I said, slowly slowly. I wish I had more cash so I could finish the car sooner :-\
Kind regards,
Ol_Girl_58
Hi guys,
It's time for an update. My good mate Crossy and I finally had some spare time to do a bit more work on Frank. The car has been off the road for 10 months now, being slowly rebuilt. The car was just meant to get a new engine and then be back on the road - that was back in May 2010 :-\
We spent last Sunday afternoon pulling the front end out in order to get out the motor, box, exhaust and tailshaft so that the underside of the car can get sandblasted.
I've been accumulating a heap of parts, so when the car comes back from being blasted, in will go a Torana rack (JB - is the rack still on the roof of your shed?), Hoppers front brakes, Supra box, short shifter, rear discs and LSD, new exhaust and extractors, chassis kit, mini tubs, larger fuel tank and Corvette seats :)
The car is now at the stage where I need to decide if I want to continue going down the hot 6 route, or go with a V8. I am quite partial to the Toyota/Lexus V8, so I need to have a think.
I'm now at the stage of considering paint colours. The car has to be green, no question. The question is, what green? I am a huge fan of Forrester Green (the Holden colour, not the Subaru), but have been wrestling with the new VE green, too. I think that I want to go with stock looking paint, but I could could swing towards a custom-looking green. Choices, choices! I would be grateful for any other suggestions and pictures.
Anyway, enjoy the photos - I'll put up some more when I get some more work done.
Kind regards,
Ol_Girl_58
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Looking good i love green too but everyone will say are you trying to make it look like peter fitzpatricks car.
I didnt mind that blue on your car it looked pretty plain in your other photos but under the light it looks bloody unreal..
Keep at it.
Pete
Thanks Pete,
The colour the car is now looks like the colour Fitzy first painted his FC!
I'm thinking a colour similar to Mitch Reinders pro street wagon, or like 'Old59', rather than a flashy green like Trilogy.
Also up for decision is wheel choice. This choice needs to be make soon, as the stud pattern is soon to be Falcon PCD. I haven't decided whether they are going to be 15" or 17" :-\
Choices so far include:
15x7 and 15x10 American Racing Salt Flats
15x6 and 15x10 Weld Prostars
17x7 and 17x10 Boyd Smoothies (or something similar)
Any suggestions would be great.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on March 01, 2011, 11:31:45 PMI'll put up some more when I get some more work done.
This quote sounds like it's me doing all the work. I need to credit my mate Crossy, who has been instrumental in getting this project off the ground. The car wouldn't be at the stage that it is without his knowledge, skills and assistance, as well as his time and patience showing me how to do things (this is my first project). So thanks, Crossy.
Kind regards,
Ol_Girl_58
I bought a solid centre brass button clutch today. Hopefully I made the right choice, rather than opting for a sprung centre. Time will tell... :-\
Ol_Girl_58
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on March 04, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
I bought a solid centre brass button clutch today. Hopefully I made the right choice, rather than opting for a sprung centre. Time will tell... :-\
Ol_Girl_58
That will be a hand full in traffic :o :o.....FC427.....
Traffic in Tasmania is there such a thing ??
Maybe stopping for sheep crossings ;D
Another update (updates equal progress ;D ;D ;D)
The underside and engine bay have been sandblasted, which revealed a bit of rust and the previous owner's fairly dodgy attempt at piecing together a chassis kit and transmission tunnel :-\
It needs a new RHF floorpan (via Ebay) and some attention to the left, as well as a new transmission tunnel (via Waddingtons) and a new chassis kit (via kiid61 @ the FBEK Forum). Then it's time to undercoat in PPG black undercoat, then cover it all up with Steinschlag (I think that's how you spell it) ;) I'll get some pictures up soon.
Hopefully it will be ready in a couple of months. I've just started playing footy again (real footy - Aussie Rules) so my spare time is quite limited.
I think I've found my wheels, too:
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If you squint they kind of look like Tasmans. Just not sure if I want them in 15" or 17".
I'm ticking things off the list - up next is for a Rod's Rack Torana rack to go in (thanks for the Torana rack Glenn M, and thanks for putting me onto it, JB), then some bigger discs, a new fuel tank and an exhaust system. Stay tuned!
Ol_Girl_58
Oh yeah,
I got some tramp rods from Ace, too- when they go on, the FC is going to look retro cool ;D ;D ;D
Love the wheels Josh, a little bit of Dragway about them
regards
Weddo
Im with Weddo, great choice if wheels Josh but for the love of god dont put 17's on it!!!
Hey Josh,
Another vote for 15's, I feel 17's just look too big.
Dean.
Photo time!
Sandblasted belly:
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Covering up the bare metal:
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The poor old fellow, looking worse for wear:
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Interior gutted, ready for RHF floor pan, trans tunnel and mounts for the Corvette seats:
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Thanks for looking ;)
Ol_Girl_58
PS I'm going with 15 inch wheels.
Hey all, another update! No pics today, but will try to get them up in the next few days.
The chassis kit arrived from kiid61 (who is building the 22" wheeled EK on the FB-EK Forum); after a bit of mucking around and trial fitting during the week, it should be in for good tomorrow. The floorpan and trans tunnel are the next jobs to tackle, which should happen during the week.
I bought a pair of drop stubs from Stubtech, and a big brake kit to go onto the stubs. I have sent some parts away to Rods Racks so get converted, too.
I've got a mate with an XU-1 circuit racer who has talked me into circuit racing and time trialling the FC when it's done, so I'm looking forward to giving the car some curry.
I've had a bit of shit happen in the last week, so I anticipate I'll be working on the car a lot more to stay busy and keep my mind off it. Hopefully that means I'll get the car done quicker.
Photos to come.
Cheers,
Josh
We had some progress yesterday. But would you believe it, my camera/phone died today. Bugger. I regret getting sucked into the funky live wallpapers and Angry Birds playing capabilities of the HTC Desire, and should have opted for the iPhone instead.
Anyway, I spent a fortune on NC nuts and bolts, one half of the chassis kit is in, the old trans tunnel and RHF floorpan have been cut out, and the diff and springs have been removed. There's just something awesome about grinding and making noise. ;)
Targa Tasmania is on at the moment, so today I spent a few hours watching the cars drive past my place (how cool is that!). Watching this stuff makes me really eager to get the car on the track.
Pictures to come (one day).
Cheers,
Josh
Oh yeah,
There is discussion on the forum somewhere about me purchasing a solid centre brass button clutch - and how much of a pig it would be in traffic, etc.
I witnessed my mate's XU-1 with a solid centre clutch in action, and whilst it's not as poofy as a Corolla or Tiida clutch, it's not 'off' or 'on', you can ride it. It should be all good. ;D
Ol_Girl_58
And as you ride it you will be ripping a big slot into the face of your flywheel ;D
This is exactly why I use a compromise solution - a cushion button.
Aggressive, but not as aggressive as a full button - which I tried and it ripped a big slot in my expensive yella terra lightweight flywheel. :'( :'(
Quote from: CraigA on April 11, 2011, 05:07:21 PM
And as you ride it you will be ripping a big slot into the face of your flywheel ;D
This is exactly why I use a compromise solution - a cushion button.
Aggressive, but not as aggressive as a full button - which I tried and it ripped a big slot in my expensive yella terra lightweight flywheel. :'( :'(
Craig is yours a solid centre ......FC427.....
Yes it is Mark. The current one is an RPM cushion button and has good drivability with minimum shudder and some slip available.
Under drag conditions it did slip a little on flat changes but protects driveline components by doing that.
It doesn't like going backwards though. Shudders real bad.
Not sure how series you want to get into racing Josh but with your current list of mods you wouldn't be eligible to run in the TSS so would be limited to club days and hill climbs.
As for a button clutch IMO there are PLENTY of other options out there for a road driven car that will handle the power and still be nice for the road/drive line. If you want a good price a on a clutch shoot me a PM ;)
I'll consider alternative clutch options. I'll have a go with the solid centre and see how brutal it is. The driveline is quite robust.
Ben, yes, I'm looking at time trials and hill climbs. Do you know some history of my car? You'll have to come and have a look some time.
Cheers,
Josh
Just had a call from Rod Gordon-Smith from Rod's Racks confirming that he's just received my parts. Front mounted rack for the FC will happen soon! ;D
I hope your not dissapinted with your front mount i hate them and will never go back.
just so annoying when you struggle to get around a round about.
Pete
Front rack has got to be better than stock though, Pete?
I almost went down the rear rack route, but chose front rack because I didn't want to dick about too much with mods to the sump etc.
I'm considering a Toyota/Lexus V8 down the track, too - the front mount will work for this. Plus, I couldn't afford a V6 Conversions or a Rod Teck front end (at the time of planning the project) :-\
Josh
Theres only 1 way to find out what they are like i put up with mine for 8 years or so donet get me wrong they make a conversion easy.
But I would have put my draglink back in over a front mount if i hadnt welded the holes up at the time.
It just felt horrible.
I ran a shoestring budget the first time i did my nissan conversion so i used draglink, banjo rear end everything from the VL just modified a sump which is fairly easy..
If you are chasing a rear mount set up a bloke did mine for $500 just the narrowed VB -Vk rack for my wifes EH which will be a stock VS 5litre.
Dont be to put off by the sump they are pretty easy to do i mod a lot for a local bloke that does ecotec V6,s into minitrucks very basic.
Good luck with it all should be a tidy looking car when done.
Pete
Hi all,
An update as such. I got my front brake kit yesterday; a twin piston set up that bolts onto HQ stub axles. Not from Hoppers, but a group that advertise on Ebay. I'll be offloading the HR discs and stub axles shortly. The rear leaves are out ready to be reset. Waiting for Rod's Racks to finish the rack and then the FC will go back together.
No photos. I had my busted phone repaired and now my laptop is broken. Bugger :-\
- Josh
Hey all,
Here is the latest photo update. Well, truth be told, the car hasn't been touched fpr a month or more, but I extracted the latest pictures from my phone. Crossy and I spent a few hours cutting out the frankenstein trans tunnel and a rusty RHF floorpan and putting in the chassis kit. The kit itself was easy to do, but cutting out the previous owner's crappy attempt at a strengthening kit and tidying up the undercarriage was more time consuming.
The chassis kit - well, 3/4 or it anyway. It was probably in the background somewhere. I bought it from Justin (kiid61) on the FB-EK Forum. Juston's dad is an engineer and makes the chassis kits from time to time. It's a well engineered kit, and fits without modification. PM me if you'd like more details.
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The point of no return:
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Mocked up, ready for trimming and final placement.
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Finally, getting the rear springs out, ready to have them reset:
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What next? Things have been pretty hectic with work, moving house etc., so I gather there won't be alot of short term progress. I'm waiting for Rod Gordon-Smith to finish my rack, then Frank will go back together. The suspension will get rebuilt, the big brakes will go on, and the engine bay will be tidied and painted in my colour of choice; Forrester green or an XP Falcon green.
Once again, HUGE thanks go to Crossy for his time, experience and expertise.
I'll get photos up when things happen.
Thanks for looking,
Ol_Girl_58
The chassis kit photo didn't work, for some reason. Take 2 (remember, the kit has four parts - the fourth bit is somewhere else in this photo):
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Perth Nationals are out, I think. Aiming for Hobart 2014. Lack of time and money are a killer :-\
For what it's worth, the colour will be XP Falcon Kurrajong Green.
Ol_Girl_58
Pity - would have been a good drive!! ;)
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on June 07, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
Perth Nationals are out, I think. Aiming for Hobart 2014. Lack of time and money are a killer :-\
For what it's worth, the colour will be XP Falcon Kurrajong Green.
Ol_Girl_58
Nice colour, going two tone?
Hobart will be a better drive ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: grandmasterb on June 23, 2011, 07:56:52 PMNice colour, going two tone?
Yep! Kurrajong Green with white roof/boot/side flash.
I hope the FC won't be in the 'Vehicles Under Construction' section for too long. I have a feeling will be - I recently bought a turbo Volvo for a bit of fun :-\ it's a cracker to drive ;D
Ol_Girl_58
Progress!!! (Sort of)
Ordered a fuel tank from Marty Dean today (2 month wait!) and also ordered a set of HM Headers HM9C extractors. Slowly slowly.
Ol_Girl_58
hi there great job your doing.i was wondering what that guy charges for the chassis kit.cheers
Pajman,
PM sent.
Hi all,
Some more progress. The front end has been assembled and dummied up. The front rack is in, drop stubs and twin piston brakes are on; motor has been dummied up. There have been a few problems along the way, such as the steering arm fouling on the high volume oil pump, then the engine mount; extractors that wouldn't fit; etc, etc. Rust has been found under where the radiator sits, so a panel will need to be fabricated. The flared guards will be folded under, too. Corvette seats are in, but they look slightly awkward, as they sit up too high, so thinking caps will need to be utilised.
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It does look pretty tough with drop stubs and 2" lowered springs, but the standard springs will probably go back in, as there is just no movement. The wheels and tyres are $60 specials so the car can be moved around the shed. Perhaps if there would be more movement if I swapped from a 225 to 205 profile on the front tyre. Anyway, enjoy the photos - I really enjoy seeing this car progress. See you at the Hobart Nationals! :-\
Kind regards,
Josh
Oops - I doubled up on a photo... Insert this one instead :-[
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Cheers,
Josh
there are two offsets for those wheels, you seem to have the larger of them on there, if you get yourself the smaller offset P43 i think, you will have much better guard clearance.
Im using the smaller offset on the front and larger on the rear and run 195x50x15.
Hey Nick,
I'm running Falcon PCD all round - I wasn't aware there was more then one offset for EF - EL Falcons. Regardless, these wheels are just a temporary remedy until I get my 'real' wheels.
ah, my fault for not reading through the thread again, i was thinking holden commodore stud pattern. The wheels look the same.
Hi all,
Work on Frank is going very slowly at the moment - the car has been relocated to larger shed with more room to move. The front tyres were swapped for ease of moving the car around. The steering column will be in shortly, and the wiring and brakes will be done soon. The rears will be swapped for Ford units in the near future, too. It looks pretty tough with dropped stubs and super low springs, but it's just not practical :-\
Not much progress, but again, any progress is good progress. I'm eager to take the car for a spin :)
Thanks for looking. Kind regards,
Josh
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Progress 8)
Cheers,
Josh
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The white is a Toyota pearl white. The bloke at the paint shop did a good job matching the paint from my bonnet with 20-something year old paint on it.
The chassis and floors have been painted flat black/slagstien and the chassis kit has been sprayed gloss black. Next up is cleaning/assembling the front end, repaint the motor and box, then start putting the car back together. It came to my attention that I've been a member of this forum for 10 years as of February 2013.
I'm pretty sure I never want to do a resto again. In saying that, I'm really proud of what has been achieved so far, learning so much from very talented people in the process. Not only that, but an average car is on the way to being turned into a tough, safe, soundly engineered streeter.
Cheers,
Josh
The pearl white does look period. Nice work Josh.
QuoteIt came to my attention that I've been a member of this forum for 10 years as of February 2013.
You get less for murder by the way ;D
Regards
Wayne b
It's looking really good Josh. Ten years is a drop in the ocean for some builds. My car has been off the road since 1984 but I'm still at it. Like you, once I've finished that and my sons wagon, I don't think I would do another one. Take comfort in the fact that you have kept another classic on the road in one form or another. Good luck with the rest of the build.
Ole.
Quote from: Ole on March 17, 2013, 12:43:43 PMTen years is a drop in the ocean for some builds. My car has been off the road since 1984 but I'm still at it. Like you, once I've finished that and my sons wagon, I don't think I would do another one.
Off the road since 1984? How do you keep yourself and the build motivated?
So I say I'll never do a resto again. But I
really, really like the idea of an supercharged-LS1 powered E-Type Jag. :-\ :-\ :-\
- Josh
A lot of things get in the way along the way like a lot of the guys on this forum. Things like marriage, house kids etc. it's all about keeping the dream alive, prioritising and having a supportive wife. I have to pull my finger out and get stuck into it. I would love to have it finished for the Nationals, but I can't guarantee which one! I will probably have my sons wagon finished before mine.
More progress.
Engine repainted and in:
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Marty Dean fuel tank in:
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It's getting there slowly. Last week I was ready to chuck it in and sell the car due to the amount of time and money it's soaking up, but I figure it'll be done soon. Plus, my goal is to be driving it at the Tas FE-FC Nationals.
Here's a photo of my mate's new acquisition - the plan is for it to be built into a blown burnout car and styled like a ratty NASCAR.
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Cheers,
Josh.
For comparison's sake, here is how the engine bay previously looked:
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One of the car's previous owners hacked the firewall to fit triple carbs - it was a ratty job and looked out of place. Now, a piece of LJ Torana floor pan has been utilised - it created a recess for the Webers to fit, and also retains a factory-look pressing.
Cheers,
Josh
The comparison photos really highlight the difference you've made Josh, we'll done. You've gotta love the old brake pipe work going to the VH40 booster! That would have won points at judging. Keep up the good work, at least you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Regards Ole.
Bloody hell this is dragging on, 10 years, get it finished already! :P
Looks good but
Thanks Ole, the car was a bit of a basket case - what I thought would be a quick fix has turned out to be something far more complicated. At least I know it's been done properly. You're right - it's about keeping the dream alive.
Quote from: stinky on April 09, 2013, 10:20:43 PMBloody hell this is dragging on, 10 years, get it finished already!
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/mate.jpg)
I'm just waiting for my trimmer
:P :P ;D ;D
Taller front springs are in. The car is now sitting at drive height.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0081.jpg)
Now that would have been a good engine for the FC ;D ;D
Pedro
would go alright petty its only a 308,
Looks like a Chev to me...? ???
Yep, it's a 350 :)
didnt count the bolts only the exhaust setup, mybad
Have you spoken to the engineer yet Josh??? :D
Small updates. Extractors have been wrapped...
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0160.jpg)
Some bling has been added to the motor...
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0161.jpg)
The car's been sitting for so long it's being utilised as a chalkboard by drunk mates :-\
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0159.jpg)
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on June 26, 2013, 10:14:06 PM
The car's been sitting for so long it's being utilised as a chalkboard by drunk mates :-\
it's all fun and games until you wash the dust off and the artwork remains :-\ you can ask my kids about that >:(
Hi mate. I like the look of the Torana pressing for the carb clearance.
What booster are you using? Regards, Martyn
Hi Martin,
The booster is from a Datto 180B.
Thanks Glen, I'll dust those masterpieces off. The last thing I want are a couple of phallic symbols imprinted on the boot :-\
Cheers,
Josh.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on June 27, 2013, 10:46:00 PM
The booster is from a Datto 180B.
Upon closer inspection, it's a booster from a 200B.
Cheers,
Josh.
Probablly a 200B Booster commodore cylinder bolts straight to it.
Spot on, Pete.
Magic, thanks very much guys. Not an easy item to find these days I imagine? Regards, Martyn
It was surprising easy to find, Martyn. Mine came from the local wrecker, a 5 minute drive away ;)
Got a bit more done this evening. I started polishing the webers(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0170.jpg)
...and the front brakes are in place, although they need to come off again, as the resident shed rats ate the rubber dust cover boots. >:(
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0169.jpg)
the steering column is up next. It got mocked up tonight. What a pain it was :-\
Ta for the booster info. Were you happy with performance? Regards, Martyn
Nice carb setup Josh, i drove a HR van with a similar set up a few years ago and it was hard to believe it was a red it went so hard.
Pedro
Martyn, I can't tell you about booster performance, as I haven't had it set up in a running car. Hopefully someone else who has run/is running this set up can chime in. I came across a site on the net today that may help you with a booster, although the name escapes me right now. It was FatDat or something.
Pedro, it's always great to hear positive feedback about the performance of Webers. A couple of years ago I took my FC for a spin when the new motor and Weber setup was dropped in - it was a wild bit of gear, even without a proper tune. The handling was questionable so I pulled the car apart. I'll never forget the sound of three howling webers 8)
- Josh
Looks like polishing those webers gave you wood! ;D
Finished the front brakes last night around midnight - but forgot to put the split pins in :-\ Got the steering column in too.
The good news is that I've got an engineer involved now and he's coming out for his first look at the car tomorrow.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/FCShed.jpg)
The engineer has been and gone - he was happy with most things, except the diameter of the plates for mounting the seat belts, and I can no longer have Frankenstein bolts in the B pillar for the belts. Also, the belts that I purchased from the USA aren't acceptable due to not being ADR compliant. A further concern was the departure angle - that the fuel tank would be the first thing that made contact with the ground if I was to get a flat/drive up a steep driveway.
I've had a month away from the car as it's been pretty frustrating, but I should have done my research before buying and doing anything. I'm getting back into it this weekend.
Does that mean you have a plate in the 'b' pillar? If you do that properly you best get pictures. I had a guy tell me to do that and afterwards tell me he couldn't see what I did inside the pillar. Lucky it was on a standard early and I grabbed a spanner of the bench and removed the belts.
Hey Josh,
Dont despair mate. All engineers are different. I should know as i went through three to get mine passed. May pay to get a re inspection by another engineer even though it will cost you another fee. However, the next guy might be more lenient and in the long run cost you less. I do think that you have no alternative when it comes to the seat belt issue. regards Brett
Thanks HSV - I'll take a photo of the upper B pillar when the work starts.
Thanks Brett - My plan is to find an engineer familiar with old Holdens. I understand that there are some things in the VSB that just be misinterpreted, but there are so many things that are murky and open to interpretation. Regarding the seatbelts, I've been doing some research and found a document discussing ADR's and their corresponding USA MOT equivalents - so I may be able to use my belts after all.
Another headache is track requirements. Transport want my proposed track requirements, but I don't know what they're going to be yet, as I haven't bought my new wheels in order to provide them with the info. Further, the fact that I'm running a Centura rear end means that my rear track may be governed by the Centura measurements, rather than stock FC measurements. The engineer didn't have an answer for that. ??? ??? ???
A further problem is the Corvette seats. The engineer says that I can't use them, as they don't have headrests. However, the transport department say that I can, as the FC is pre ADR. ??? ??? ???
Bloody first world problems. I should've taken up knitting or something, rather than mess around with old cars. At least I've got my Volvo to fall back on. :-\
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on August 21, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
A further problem is the Corvette seats. The engineer says that I can't use them, as they don't have headrests. However, the transport department say that I can, as the FC is pre ADR. ??? ??? ???
My Bench seat doesn't have headrests ::)
Quote from: NES304 on August 21, 2013, 02:14:17 PM
My Bench seat doesn't have headrests ::)
NES, If I had have kept a stock bench in the car it wouldn't have been an issue - it's an issue now as I've modified the car by fitting non-standard seating.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on August 21, 2013, 02:24:47 PM
NES, If I had have kept a stock bench in the car it wouldn't have been an issue - it's an issue now as I've modified the car by fitting non-standard seating.
Really? Good to know. My engineer more than happy with my bench seat and HK buckles. ;)
vsb pretty clear on track, my experience is that you wont get away with narrower than std fc track which is 1384mm.
4.2.9 Passenger Car Wheel Track
The wheel track of passenger cars (or derivatives) must not be increased by more than 25mm
beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for the particular model. This
means that the rim offset must not be changed by more than 12.5mm.
Reduction in wheel track must not be performed without approval of the relevant Registration
Authority.
But in saying that there is a grey area surrounding alternate diff track.
Track. Where non-original axle or suspension cross-member components are fitted,
the offset of the wheel in relation to the axle or hub assembly used must not be
increased by more than 12.5mm each side of the vehicle based on the specifications of
the axle components used. If an axle assembly is shortened then the track width limit
is taken as the axle manufacturers original track dimension, less the amount the
assembly has been narrowed, plus 25mm.
i'll leave it to you to interpret this.
and, if your buying new wheels you can achieve whatever track you want (clearance permitting) if the offset is chosen wisely.
Josh
Understanding all engineers are different I got my engineer to OK my wheels purely by saying they were to not foul any part of the body. Track did not matter.
Seats without headrests no problems. I did consider putting headrests in if needed but once passed removed the headrest and make up some cover plates either chromed or covered in the same material.
B pillar mounts were fitted by cutting the inner panel bending out slightly then slotting the backing plate and nut then spotting it and then rewelding the panel.
General rule of thumb with tank is to fit bumper and run a string line from bottom of bumper to the rear tyre where it meets the ground. Maybe another option is to space the tank a little higher and shorten the filler neck into top of the tank. This is how I managed to fit my alloy one in.
Keep up the good work and see if there is another engineer who can interpret the rules a little different ::) ::) ::)
Cheers
Craig D
Keep going mate
Got back up to the workshop aka Torana Town today. Photos speak for themselves, I think 8)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0190.jpg)
Brake lines are done :)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0191.jpg)
The engine is about ready to run. I'm going to run braided hose for a bit of extra bling. The filters are a temporary remedy. :)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0189.jpg)
Gave Frank a clean - it looks pretty good, and has motivated me to get back into it. Thanks for all the advice and feedback so far. I will be looking for another engineer ;)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0193.jpg)
Cheers,
Josh
Very very nice.
After a delay of three years, I am absolutely ecstatic to announce that the car RUNS! ;D ;D ;D
It started after the third attempt and despite the huge cam and Webers, it idles like a kitten. I haven't sorted my exhaust yet - it sounds pretty wild running extractors only. Photos to come - possibly a video ;D
Cheers,
Josh
Some progress today.
Seats are in:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0266-1.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0267.jpg)
Front lap sash avaition belts are in:(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0269.jpg)
New filters on (thanks to CraigA for the tip, three years on):(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0268.jpg)
Better view of the Marty Dean tank:(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0271.jpg)
The car as it sits, looking low ;):
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0270.jpg)
Cheers,
Josh
I apologise that this isn't a particularly informative post. I suppose there comes a time for us when we question whether we want to continue with our builds.
I'm at this point now. It has soaked up so much time and money - it seems to be a bottomless pit, and I question when enough is enough.
I suppose I will regret selling the car at some point.
- Josh.
This is a great post Josh. No need to apologise. I am interested in the fact you are so close to saving this car, not how informative the post is. I am sure victory will come but it will just be a bit further away.
Keep up the posts and hopefully you get the drive (and money) to finish.
Regards
Wayne B
Josh
All decisions are made based on where we are in life at a particular point in time. The decision is yours and yours alone as only you know where you are at the moment and where you want to be in the future and how you propose to get there. Things to consider before you make your decision, not in any particular order.......
- what $ have you invested to this point?
- what is a nominal $ value per hour for your time spent on it to date?
- what $ are you likely to get if you sell it as is?
- if you sell and decide to try and re-create it in the future, what $ would you need to spend?
- what $ will it cost to complete it?
- can you finish it without absolutely everything you really want and then make those changes later?
- do you really want this car or has something else taken your fancy?
- if it's the latter for the above question, are you just frustrated because yours is not finished?
Having met you, I know you are a very smart, talented and determined guy. The answer to all of the above and many other questions that I have no doubt have asked yourself already can only be answered by you - and - you are only answerable to yourself.
I know you will make the decision that is right for you at this point in time - and - whatever decision that is, have no regrets and move forwards to where you want to be. :)
Kathi
A recent separation has caused me to question where I want to be in life. There's a catch 22 with cars - at least this car in particular. I want to see it through to the very end, but at the same time, it's money that could be spent on a house deposit.
Building a car out of passion hasn't been a great financial decision, despite how much fun it will be when it's finished.
And I wonder whether it's worth more to someone else than it is to me at this point in time - I think it's unrealistic to expect back anywhere near what I've spent on it - that fact alone makes me feel a bit nauseous :-\
When I seperated I didnt want to do a thing with my car between trying to save my house and business and also my ex taking my daughter the smartest thing I did was put the car in hibernation out of site out of mind.
but if you need the cash its only a car.
good luck with whatever you decide and hang in there it does get better.
Hi Josh
mmmm it all makes more sense now.......
We all go through rough patches - some are rougher than others - take some time to really think through things logically.
You will come up with the right answer for you at this point in time - no regrets though Josh.
So sorry to hear about your relationship.
Kathi
It's not a great idea to make hasty decisions in times of grief and trauma - I gather that these decisions aren't always the best decisions. My ex partner didn't understand how much the car meant to me, nor the fact that it soaks up large amounts of time and cash. It's one of those things :-\
Can't be in your shoes, but I have been through similar with the van and the ute in its infancy... Once you get through the pain, the car is there for you to tinker with, stare at, and of course curse... But most of all if was a distraction for me too and then was a treat when I got it on the road ... This was the van I am talking about.
I don't like giving up of not following through as for me this would be a greater regret.
Good luck with what ever you decide to be the best way forward for you.
JB
I'm glad you finished it Jason :)
Like an email to someone you're pissed off with, I'd leave it until the fog lifts.
I appreciate that a roof over your head is a priority, but if you sold the car, how much interest would it save on the loan?
Just throwing a figure out there, $20,000 sale price (remember what it's worth to you is not necessarily what someone else would pay) at say 6% interest is $1200 per year you'd cut down on your repayments by having the cash to put into the loan.
That's $23 per week. Can you cover that cost until things settle down?
Sorry to put a pragmatic rather than emotional slant on it, but that's all you'd save in money by selling.
I know it'd cut me up more than $23 a week's worth to sell mine, and I've got a lot more to go than you before i finish. Read Kathi's list again and see how badly you need the $23 per week.
If storage is an issue I'm sure someone can help out until you get sorted.
And remember, the car never parks itself in someone else's garage and you can drive it every day ;)
However, you should make the decision you feel most comfortable with and not do what others think you should, or what they say they'd do in the same circumstances.
My 2 bob's worth. Regards, Martyn
So the girl's gone, but the car stays. Here are a few updates:
New steering wheel on:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0295.jpg)
New tacho dummied up:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0298.jpg)
New addition almost ready for paint ;) (thanks Pete):
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0296.jpg)
The engine wiring and bonnet cable have been hidden, but I forgot to take a photo. The diff and rear discs are next to be sorted, and then the car can be driven.
Cheers,
Josh
Hopefully the car gets driven more KM,s than that poor bonnet has done...
Dont miss it tho really dont like the louvre look might have something to do with being stuck on a louvre punch as an apprentice.. switchboards have louvres :D
Good on you for persisting with the project! I think you will get the distraction you need and the satisfaction when it's done... Win win.
Results are looking good!!
Cheers
JB
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on December 07, 2013, 11:07:40 PM
So the girl's gone, but the car stays.
mmmm sounds a
little like me some years back! some things aren't meant to be and some things are! :)
Quote from: FCRB26 on December 08, 2013, 07:21:45 AMHopefully the car gets driven more KM,s than that poor bonnet has done...
It had about 6 different layers of paint on it, Pete! The only colour it will have on it from now on will be pearl white.
Quote from: JB on December 08, 2013, 07:23:39 AMGood on you for persisting with the project! I think you will get the distraction you need and the satisfaction when it's done... Win win.
Thanks Jase... and me too :-\
Quote from: NosFEratu on December 08, 2013, 08:31:31 AMsome things aren't meant to be and some things are! :)
I'm wrestling with this concept at the moment Kathi, and coming to peace with it. There's light in darkness, you got through it; so there's a good chance I will too ;)
Cheers,
Josh
Hi all,
I'm at the stage of choosing wheels - I've narrowed it down to two styles, both of them American Racing Wheels. They will be 15x7 front and 15x8 rears. I know it's my car, my choice etc., but I'm also a fan of consultation.
Salt Flat Specials:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/rod1.jpg)
200S:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/camaro.jpg)
I'm influenced by hot rod and muscle car culture - both of these styles fit the bill. Feedback and constructive criticism is welcomed and encouraged. :)
Cheers,
Josh
I missed something. Your keeping it? Hope it's worked out mate.
Go Simmons!!! I like the second ones heaps better but YOU have to be happy with it.
Yeah NES, I'm keeping it.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on December 07, 2013, 11:07:40 PM
So the girl's gone, but the car stays.
Working on the car keeps me distracted. I'm not a fan of giving up, and I've got a goal of getting it to the Hobart Nationals. After that, who knows. I've put far too much work into the car for it to belong to someone else, and it's a cool car, so it needs me driving it. Besides, if I sold it, I wouldn't find another one like it.
Cheers,
Josh.
Hi all,
A little more done on the car today. New gauges and tacho are in, brake lines have been bled and clutch is sorted, although very heavy. Whilst the car was up on the hoist I thought I'd take a few photos to share. It's all been painted in slagstein matt black, with the chassis kit painted in gloss 2 pack.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/under1.jpg)
Fuel and brake lines.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/under2.jpg)
Nice fabrication work.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/under3.jpg)
Torana rack
Next up is to sort the diff and add Falcon discs to the Centura rear end, and make up a side pipe. I WILL be at the Hobart Nationals. ;)
Cheers,
Josh
Glad to see you are in pretty good spirits, moving ahead with the car and that you have a goal - keep it up Josh :)
Hi all,
A productive day was had yesterday - got some sound deadener on the floor, the carpet and firewall soundproofing in, and the rear seat trial fitted.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/in1.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IN3.jpg)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/In2.jpg)
slowly but surely :D keep going Josh.
Here's a video of Frank moving out of the shed under his own power - first time in over three years!!! 8) 8) 8)
[youtube=425,350]watch?v=ZDSKO5xGQh0&feature=youtu.be&noredirect=1[/youtube]
...and going back in (not just a one-hit wonder) 8) 8)
[youtube=425,350]watch?v=zjUerxaPU60&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Thanks to JOD34N for the interior, too. I've had it in storage for a while (like a lot of things) - it's like piecing together a large jigsaw puzzle :)
Lucky last video. The sound isn't the best - it's all thermo fan and straight cuts:
[youtube=425,350]f4oX85YCBVw&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Wheels will be ordered tomorrow from Rons Rims in the US.
I'm absolutely ecstatic that the car is at the point it is - as some of you are aware, it's taken 13 years to get to here, and I've been on the verge of selling it several times out of frustration regarding certain things not working. Some people have understood my passion/obsession with building this car, and some people just didn't get it, weren't even close, and never will be.
Building Frank has kept me out of trouble, allowed me to gain new skills, taught me patience and perseverance - showing me the importance of sticking to something, but most importantly, has allowed me to cultivate some incredibly important friendships -especially my mate Crossy, who I have mentioned several times before in this thread. He has been the backbone of this project, showing me how to do stuff; doing the stuff that I don't have the skills to do; and most importantly, fixing all the crap that I stuffed up whilst learning how to do stuff.
Cheers,
Josh.
Hi Josh, you must be stoked to be able to see it roll without help! I'm glad you've pushed on despite the shaking heads. I'm copping a few at the moment (from outside the forum!), especially about my truck (see my post Crump Snr's Second Project). Crack on and get the rewards at the end! Regards, Martyn
Well done Josh
That must make you feel pretty good.
Hope to catch up in April
Regards
Craig D
Josh,
I am so looking forward to meeting Frank, and the motor sound fantastic.
regards
Weddo
Six cylinder with triple webbers or delortos are the best sounding six
If I was not going the v8 route I would be running them again
Thanks guys,
Yes, I am very pleased that it's running. I'm looking forward to seeing some of you in April.
Martyn, I really dig your truck. A few inches lower ;)
A correction is in order - I purchased the interior from Jordo - Craig and Sharyn - not JOD34N. It's been a while. The rear seat is trimmed in FC pattern, and the buckets will be trimmed similarly. I sold my front bench to NickZ, but kept the trim which I will attempt to utilise to cover the buckets. The door trims are FE style, but I figure the car is way beyond 'original' now, so it doesn't bother me if there's a trim clash.
My new rocker cover turned up yesterday. Looks cool.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/rocker.jpg)
I'm selling the finned rocker cover that's on the car at the moment if anyone is interested. It clears roller rockers.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0190.jpg)
Cheers,
Josh.
Hi Josh. Love the rocker cover. Yep, the truck's gonna sit lower! Regards, Martyn
Looking really neat Josh, should haul ass with that carby setup, ;D, where did you get your front crossmember bolt covers from they are a great idea to stop them filling up with dirt and water etc.
Pedro
Hi Pedro,
I bought them from Ebay a while ago. There's a shop that fabricates them and puts them on from time to time.
As an aside, I've just ordered my wheels from RonsRims ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)
The cross member bolt covers can be purchased from most stainless steel merchants that sell stainless pipe for railings,
they are the end caps,I polished them then put them in with a bit of silicone and they never moved.
Niffty
Re the bolt covers - another alternative is plastic stick-on convex circular mirrors that are designed to stick on exterior mirrors to give a wide-angle view. Available in several different diameters (I think the ones I used were the smallest available; 60mm?) cost about $5 each at Autobarn or similar. Stick on with silicone/sikaflex. No polishing necessary, cheap, quick, easy...
cheers, jack
Re Re the bolt covers, I turned some up in the workshop out of aluminium, machined an O ring groove around the bottom, the O ring holds the cap in place and allows you to take it out if needed a little easier than having them held in by silicone, the aluminium polishes up really nicely as well.
Regards
Neil H
Update ... of sorts.
I've got a new engineer coming to check the car out tomorrow, he's been in the game for a while so I'm certain I'm on the right track with him.
Front seats are set to be trimmed this week, and work to add disc brakes to the Centura diff will also start. My wheels will arrive in a few weeks, so I'm looking at getting tyres sorted soon, getting a full exhaust made up, and painting the louvered bonnet. Pics to come, and an update re: what the engineer has to say.
My money tree is dying at a rapid rate.
Cheers,
Josh.
I did commodore discs onto centura if you need info.
Thanks Pete, I will keep that in mind - I've got falcon/fairlane discs to put on.
you must feel dirty putting that crap on your car ;D
Just joking
1 massive thing that had me stuffed for ages was axle leakage well being young and dumb i did this when i was 17 welded axles up machined them on dads lathe used an indexing head and his drill we had mounted on the cross slide re did axles then welded commodore calliper mount /bearing holster up and re drilled it to suit .
1 thing i didnt account for was the the original drum backing plates are 2mm and the commodore calliper mount/bearing holster/backing thingo is 5mm thick leaving end float in the bearings had me stuffed dor a long time..
Good to know!
I've measured the backspace for the wheels - I didn't account for the difference between drum and disc mm.
New engineer has been and gone, and is happy with the quality of the work done so far - nothing needs changing.
Good news ;D ;D ;D
Ran into an issue today - as mentioned in another thread, the Falcon discs that I intended to add to the rear increase the rear track far too much. It wouldn't be an issue, however I've already ordered my wheels.
A quick check with the transport department - I'm okay to run drums. I'm not arguing this - however I thought when it came to installing a bigger engine, four wheel discs had to be utilised?
Cheers,
Josh.
Your running a 202 centura was 245 and 265 should be right
you will be fine with drums, especially if transport has given you the go ahead. I have a r31 skyline rear disc setup kicking around somewhere that i was going to adapt to the centura in my daily. From memory i was only looking at 10mm or so a side increase in track. your welcome to have a play with it if you want to see if it will make enough difference...what wheels did you end up ordering?
I ran walkinshaws with 225s think their 5 inch backspace actually ran 6mm alloy spacers on the back from memory as it rubbed the inner wall.
Pete
Thanks Guys.
Ben, thanks for the offer re: mucking around with the Skyline diff - I will just stick with the drums. I ended up ordering a set of American Racing Salt Flat Specials.
no prob, i'm a big fan of the salt flats, i'd show you a pic of mine but no more till after the nats....hahaha
Are we both running salt flats? It's like turning up to a function and you see someone wearing the same clothes as you.
:D
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on March 05, 2014, 07:10:23 AM
Are we both running salt flats? It's like turning up to a function and you see someone wearing the same clothes as you.
:D
Not quite
tasmans everywhere
5 spokes everywhere
us racers everywhere :D
And those Walkinshaw wheels... everywhere ;D
Quote from: FCRB26 on March 05, 2014, 07:47:48 AM
Not quite
tasmans everywhere
5 spokes everywhere
us racers everywhere :D
I'm going to slash up stinking five spokes on the Ute ;D ;D ;D.......FC427......
Walkinshaws are trailer wheels now there so old school ;D
We have wheels! 8)
Well, one wheel, anyway. The other three are somewhere else... :-\
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/saltflat1.jpg)
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Slowly slowly ;)
Don't you think its time to change the title of your post now?
Your not a L-plater anymore
And starting to take a real shape now
Will look nice with thoes wheels
You're probably right, John. Nitrous isn't on anymore, either.
On a separate note, the three remaining wheels have turned up. 8)
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on March 14, 2014, 11:50:24 AM
We have wheels! 8)
Well, one wheel, anyway. The other three are somewhere else... :-\
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Slowly slowly ;)
Fair chance there on a trike ;D
Nice shoes!!!
Where were they???
Nick
It's all good. A quick call to the courier located the remaining three at the depo.
Tyres will be fitted on Monday... Not just any old tyres, either ;-)
Getting closer by the day. Today I had the wheels fitted with ROAD LEGAL Toyo semi-slicks. Looks cool. 8)
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New rocker cover:
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I've just collected my front seats front the trimmer, so the interior will be the next thing to finish.
Regards,
Josh.
Louvered bonnet:
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Regards,
Josh :)
...with all this spending to finish the car off, I am a bit of a 'pork-hunt'
:-\
Looking really good Josh, love the wheels and tyres. And have always been a fan of louvres :) Cant wait to see and hear it at the nats. Cheers, Graeme
I dont comment usually but I have to say when u said the mags u where using I didnt think much of them but I must say on the car josh great choice keep up the pace best of luck getting to nats
Grant
Thanks guys.
Grant - I know what you mean; I wasn't so certain on them when I started looking at wheels, but they grew on me. They're unusual, and fit my 60's racer theme pretty well, I think.
Josh :)
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Pedro
Bit of a milestone in recent days. Had the car properly buffed - the first time in at least 13 years. Also got my first actual drive (on private property, of course). It's an absolute hoot. It stops and steers brilliantly, and the clutch is easy to manage. The car has the right amount of rake, too.
Bring on the nats 8)
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Brilliant shine. They'll see it from Melbourne.
like the stance
mine sits about the same 2" all round
what size rubber you running
Thanks guys.
It needs a polish and a couple of days for reassembly. I'm not sure that I will get the rooflining in by the nats, which is disappointing, and I don't trust my skills to do it solo.
John, the tyres are Toyo R888 semi slicks - 225/50 15 on the back and 205/50 15 on the front. I intend to do some track work in the car at some stage.
what made you go with the 50 profile on the front instead of the 55,
keeping the od the same, or maybe a lower stance?
should handle very well, i love the 225/50 and 205/55 on mine, fits the stock wells and makes her ride like she's on tracks, compared to the 175/s
Quote from: john253a on March 30, 2014, 01:36:46 AM
what made you go with the 50 profile on the front instead of the 55,
keeping the od the same, or maybe a lower stance?
I would have preferred 55 series on the front, but 50 series was the only option with the Toyo tyres. The sidewall is wider than I anticipated, but it looks good.
Finally getting to the end of a long, long road.
Most things are sorted, albeit for the roof-lining, a few painted items and re-assembly of some chrome trim back onto the car. Lots of late nights have passed, and there are a few more to come.
If you see a bald guy with glasses driving this noisy old FC, with an old bloke in the passenger seat, please come up and say 'hello' - it would be great to place some faces to forum names! :)
I'm looking forward to meeting you all at the Nats.
Cheers,
Josh
Lots of work completed in the last week. Front seats trimmed and in, seat backs and bonnet painted, hoses connected in the engine bay. Still a bit of work to do! (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0392.jpg)(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0393.jpg)(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/IMAG0397.jpg)
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Regards,
Josh
Bonnet came up good ..
As did the rest of the car
Thanks, Pete. A LOT of work has gone into that bonnet!
Yep it was better than louvering a bonnet but not by much needed a fair bit of loving..
And didnt know what was hiding under the paint.
Keep up the pace josh nearly there, I will shoot you an engine bay shot of mine, identical catch can in same spot :)
Yes, shoot me a pic. I bet it looks cool 8)
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8) 8) 8)
Although it's coming off again, as some paint ran from the gun :-\
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'Screens out, ready for rooflining on the weekend. Surprisingly, no rust whatsoever around either frame. :)
Quote from: FCRB26 on April 07, 2014, 08:30:53 PM
Yep it was better than louvering a bonnet but not by much needed a fair bit of loving..
And didnt know what was hiding under the paint.
I just got the international bonnet louvered..and real nice job from the guy at Albion Park $180 ;D ;D ;D.......Mark.....
I assume rubbers arrived ?
Not yet Pete!
Should be there today
Fingers crossed!
Chugging along.
Old roof-lining out:
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New roof-lining in:
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Mammoth polishing effort:
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;)
New windscreen set to be fitted on Wednesday. I don't think the car will be completely finished for the Nats, but close enough!
See you all on Friday ;D
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Awesome achievement... I wish I was going to be there to see in in the flesh!
Well done.
JB
Well done Josh, the car looks fantastic. I was going through my old pm's and found one from you about the firewall cardboard, how did the fit end up?
Regards Jim
Hi Jim,
The standard product didn't fit very well - the firewall and trans tunnel modifications on my car meant that the firewall cardboard had to be hacked to bits.
Still, it's in there now, and finishes off the interior nicely.
Regards,
Josh.
That looks awesome Josh, congratulations for getting it done for the nats - wish I was still going so I could have a good look. Well done mate and hope you get much enjoyment out of it.
Cheers, Graeme
Hey Josh, did you go cruising past the Big 4. I thought i saw your car this afternoon
Wasn't me Scott - as far as I know Frank is tucked up in the shed.
I'd need at least two tanks of fuel to get to the Big 4 - looks like I've got an FC doppleganger out there. :)
And thanks, guys.
It's been a long road :)
Great result Josh.
The day finally came and the effort to get Frank to the Nats paid off.
Photo via the Street Machine Facebook page, via GOA350's camera:
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/10154075_10154065884970578_8995970158847343458_n.jpg).
Frank didn't miss a beat for the entire Nats weekend, albeit for a loose battery cable and dodgy radiator hose clamps. There are a few things to work on, however I'm going to shed the car for a few weeks so I can look at it with a new set of eyes and new-found eagerness, as it's been a long, tiring road.
Well done Josh, looks great. Bet you're glad you kept it now!! I'm sad I missed the Tassie Nats but will get down your way when mine's done. Long way to go yet...All the best, Martyn
Looks fantastic Josh, well done on getting it to the Nationals. Look forward to catching up one of these days - would love a ride in it :)
Cheers, Graeme
It is a beautiful thing. Well done Josh.
Regards
Wayne b
Thanks guys.
It was a mad rush to get it done - the car was 'finished' (sort of) on Good Friday morning - the drive to the Nats was the shakedown run.
Good luck to you Martyn and Graeme, getting your cars done. You are both very welcome to come for a spin when and if you get down to Hobart - the jury is out as to whether I will go to Toowoomba.
Wayne, your car was absent from the Nats?
It will be in Toowoomba :D
Regards
Wayne b
So here I was thinking that Frank was basically finished...
I had the opportunity to purchase a triple throttle-body Sonic Injection EFI manifold, so I sold my soul and put a deposit down. 300+ horsepower coming right up ;D ;D ;D
Anyone want to buy some Webers?
Regards,
Josh.
G'day Josh,
These cars are never finished ;D ;D ;D Sounds like a good score and will certainly make the beast get up and go....
Trouble with mine is I don't want to stop driving it to do all the detail work that needs to be done. Hopefully it will piss down rain for a long time and maybe that will stop me driving long enough to get the little stuff done....
Cheers, Graeme
Fingers crossed it will rain for you then, Graeme! Or maybe not, so you can keep driving her!
The thing is that I always wanted one of these manifolds, and was disappointed when manufacturing stopped. I couldn't afford one then, and I still can't now... however it's one of those things that I needed to do.
You're right Graeme, these things are never finished. It keeps things interesting, and bank accounts empty.
Regards,
Josh.
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I guess I won't be giving up work anytime soon... :-\ :-\ :-\
Straight six porn right there Josh, the only thing better would be running a full Waggot set up :D
Quote from: Crumpsnr on July 04, 2013, 08:10:31 PM
Ta for the booster info. Were you happy with performance? Regards, Martyn
I was just looking over this old thread. After having the car out on the road for a while now, I can say that the brakes are bloody spot on - not too much travel with this booster, either. I was going to go for four wheel discs, but the finned drums on the rear are more than suffice.
Should have been studying...
Went for a cruise instead.
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My race-driver mate has entered Frank into the Holden regularity event at Baskerville Raceway this weekend. This means that Frank will be racing on the track with Weddo's red FC racer.
My mate has a 'you bend it, you fix it' policy over his head. I'm feeling bloody nervous...
Hey Josh,
I wouldn't worry about Weddo,
I would be more worried about Ellis and his Humpy's.
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They are on the way and have it in for the "squarees" :D
Cheers Stewy 8)
Frank in race mode today.
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Hey Josh...looks the goods mate
Hope it all goes to plan and comes home safe
Cheers Gary
Me too, Gary!
Apparently Frank's been spitting flames out of the dodgy side exhaust and rounded up a few humpies. Frank's handing and braking is spot on, but the head may be a bit restrictive, the rockers need adjusting and the cam may not be dialed in properly. Frank may not get pushed too hard tomorrow, but after speaking with my mate Mick, we're going to pull the engine apart and make it a bit more feral/competitive.
I'm going to get a CAMS license.
Cheers,
Josh.
Frank went very well today. You missed out on a seriesly good day Josh and tommorrow will be even better. Are you coming out to give Frank a polish?
regards
Weddo
Hey Bill,
How'd your car go?
Unfortunately I'm at work tomorrow so I'm not able to get there. I'll be behind the wheel next time.
Frank spits flames... probably a shitty exhaust or something ;)
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Looks tuff with a shitty exhaust!
The car looks great mate. I hope to see it in the flesh one day.
Cheers
Deano.
If that's a shitty exhaust I want 2 of them please ;D
x2. Gotta say that last photo is a showstopper. Very nice!!
You must be very happy and proud of the end result.
Martyn
Thanks guys!
Yes, I am stoked by the end result. Unfortunately I am stupidly preoccupied with uni so I don't have much spare time to work of Frank at the moment.
I am toying with the idea of driving Frank up to the 2016 Nats with my dad - we will see.
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Regards,
Josh.
Quote from: Ol_Girl_58 on December 07, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
Thanks guys!
I am toying with the idea of driving Frank up to the 2016 Nats with my dad - we will see.
Hmm might want that injection on it then or a fuel tanker following.. ;D
Theres a Bed here on your way up if you like.
Quote from: FCRB26 on December 08, 2014, 08:07:03 AM
Theres a Bed here on your way up if you like.
Cheers, Pete! I'll definitely take you up on it if we end up doing the drive.
Quote from: FCRB26 on December 08, 2014, 08:07:03 AM
Hmm might want that injection on it then or a fuel tanker following.. ;D
Maybe I'll transplant a 4 banger for the drive up. :-\
Bring an old fc with you on a trailer. Pete will have it restored in a few days 😄
You are more than welcome at my place too Josh. Am driving up to Toowoomba as well...... Cheers, Graeme
Thanks Graeme! I'd prefer your fuel economy than mine!
;D
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Does your misses know ;D
We wont tell her.
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Back to it!
Hi all,
I'm procrastinating writing assignments, so I pulled my finger out and processed all of my photos from the 2014 FE-FC Nats. The photos in this thread are Frank specific; I'll upload the rest into a dedicated Nats thread soon.
Regards,
Josh.
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Good photos, thanks.
A few more:
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Regards,
Josh.
Great pics.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love the stance of Frank on the track. That last photo on the previous page is a cracker. Martyn
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Frank's had a lovely birthday, Josh by the look of it. Is Frank going interstate with you (if you are still going) or is Frank being prepaired for the BASKERVILLE HISTORICS in 2017
regards Weddo
Hello Bill,
Yep, Frank's getting [another] birthday. Still moving to the Northern Territory, but Frank is staying here.
Frank won't be ready with the EFI setup for Historics, but we'll drop Mick's spare race motor with my Webers in for that; Mick will be at the helm, as I'll most likely be working.
I've got your wagon doors here too; no rush.
Regards,
Josh.
Hi Josh email me your bank details and price and will transfer the fund and will get my son Nick to pick them up while we are still away.
regards
Weddo
BIll Wedd
Hi all,
Baskerville Historics were on last weekend in Tassie. Since I'm away, my mate Mick installed a spare race motor and took Frank to the track. He ended up on the podium twice; he scored third place in his LJ Torana, and first place in Frank for Early Holden Regularity. Frank was just under 10 seconds slower around the track than Mick's Torana racecar, which is a dedicated track car which has done Baskerville, Simmons, Targa Tasmania and Bathurst.
I haven't started on the injection yet; I'm toying whether I'll continue with the Sonic Injection setup or look into a JZED head with Webers. The diff is next on the agenda; I've got a 3.9 LSD centre to go in.
Anyway, here are a few photos of the weekend.
Regards,
Josh.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff271/Ol_Girl_58/frank1_3.jpg)
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Impressive Josh. The photos are very good.
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In other news, I've found a place that does knife ground cranks; the engine will start progressing soon, as will the diff/rear brakes. Probably going to raise the front of the car, too.
Thanks DJ - Frank scrubs up well; the photographers have done a great job. Credit to Mick for keeping the car straight whilst racing, too! :)
Regards,
Josh
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Great photos thanks for sharing your awesome car with us all on here.
Craig