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Title: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 24, 2008, 05:05:50 PM
Just aquired, a little work required (not much), hopefully on the road soon....

Pics as follows:

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240001.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240003.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240004.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240005.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240007.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240008.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240012.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s211/retro1980/P2240011.jpg)

She seems to have  a little rust around the boot lid area, and drivers sill, other wise i was impressed when i removed the tarp, and drove it home.


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: TTV6FC on February 24, 2008, 10:37:17 PM
Nice work,good luck with the rebuild. ;)


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: zulu on February 24, 2008, 11:07:35 PM
Good 1 retro, is it registered? be a shame to loose the plates if it is not. Good luck with it.
Cheers, Gary


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: EffCee on February 24, 2008, 11:24:39 PM
Nice pickup Retro, it will be good to see it on the road again. ;)


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: NES304 on February 25, 2008, 08:51:10 AM
Good 1 retro, is it registered? be a shame to loose the plates if it is not. Good luck with it.
Cheers, Gary
How'd you get a road worthy then?
Good luck with the rebuild


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 25, 2008, 03:52:44 PM
to clear the rego concern up, shes not registered, and has not been for many years. To keep the plates, when shes ready for rego, just saw it wasnt bearing any on the sale date, and get new ones (any combo). If they saw these old sckool ones, they will make you change them anyway.


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Johns on February 25, 2008, 06:04:35 PM
Retro, if she hasn't been registered for years, do an RTA "my plates" search if the number is available in black and yellow, you can order the original number for $60 per year.

Then, when you get the new plates put them in the draw and put the old ones on ;)

regards
John


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 25, 2008, 07:29:12 PM
naughty naughty john.... that was my idea.

Had a few offers already, thinking of selling her. BUT, we will see how motivated i get, even though its an easy job, my heart is in fbs.


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 25, 2008, 08:01:59 PM
john dumb question, i also own a 215 fj, body number s-1306 now is that body number 306 under the fe/fc drop the first number principle, or is it body number 1306?? if its 306, my plans for a chop top custom have just come to a holt.

Another great find, in near new condition, will post pics when i get her home and out of my grandads shed, which i stored her a while ago. The story on this one is she was de-regoed in 1960 for some silly reason, and stored every since.


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: mcl1959 on February 25, 2008, 08:42:26 PM
There has been a little bit of confusion here - the chassis number is the only one which starts at 1000. The body number starts with 1.
So body number 1648 is FE special body number 1648 built in Sydney

But chassis number 6 1648 S would be chassis number 648 built in Sydney in 1956

FJ did not follow a similar pattern to FE & FC

Ken


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 25, 2008, 08:54:10 PM
thanks ken for the fj info.


By the way i didnt change the title of the post, i was happy with the fe either way, besides, with my spare time, who knows if it will be a stocker anyway.


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Geoff_K on February 26, 2008, 12:06:59 AM
retro,
Ken has picked me up again on the Tag Numbers, thanks, I should have remembered.
What is now bothering me is that the posted
Id.FE225-s1648
trim 214-467 A0
paint 256/7449
        253/7447
codes bring up a Breton Blue over Cabot Grey Car,
but the pictures look like an Elk Blue Car.
Am I missing something?
Geoff_K


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 26, 2008, 08:23:56 AM
car appears to have been resprayed in the 1970's


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Ken's 57 on February 26, 2008, 05:53:19 PM
Retro

Just a thought on John's suggestion about hanging on to the original plates. I would imagine that the RTA would have it on record that these plates have never been handed in and consequently would not re-issue that number: even on modern style plates. I'm not sure how they work and I could be wrong, but you'd think they wouldn't want to run the risk of having two sets of plates with identical numbers out there somewhere.

Having said that, if old plates are in good condition there should be a provision made for allowing people to keep them if the car is registered. My FE still has its original plates and I really think it adds to originality of the car. Anyway, good luck with the restoration.

Cheers........Ken 8)


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 26, 2008, 08:53:37 PM
good call ken in relation to them plates, i was thinking of seeing them before i do anything, as i would put them on my fe ute as its more likely to be registered first. (currently sitting in my fathers garage,fully restored, and ready to drive, but without rego).
 :'( :'(


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Johns on February 27, 2008, 05:57:22 AM
Ken,

I said in my post to do an RTA search first to see if the plates are still available, I just did and they aren't. RTA records don't seem to go back beyond 20 years or so, so if you have plates that are on a car that hasn't been registered for a long time you simply do a My Plates search and then you will know for sure.

Hope this is clear.

John


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Ken's 57 on February 27, 2008, 05:14:03 PM
It was always clear thanks John. What I am saying is, that if you do the search the number "may" come up as being unavailable because those plates were never handed in. I imagine that the RTA would have records on all numbers that are eligible for re-issue, even if their records in other areas are sketchy. And any number plates (and there would have been thousands) that were never given back would be marked as unaccounted for. You can imagine the legal ramifications if they issued new plates without knowing for sure if the original set had been destroyed or whether they were in the possession of petrol thieves, ram-raiders and other crooks.

As a young bloke I collected a few sets off dumped cars back in the 60's and I have found that all of these have come up as unavailable when I did the search. Now this may be coincidental and as I said, I may be wrong. Perhaps you know how the RTA works and if so, I stand corrected. Otherwise, I thought it would be useful to offer an opinion on the matter and just see if anyone can throw some light on this subject. ??? 


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Spinner on February 27, 2008, 11:12:29 PM
Well, well, well.

My father has a set of BC plates that he had on a Chrysler By, last registered c1992.  These plates are unavailable.

My next door neighbour owned an XW GT, from new.  It was stolen and not ever recovered, c 1993.  Its number plates come up as available.

Interesting.


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Geoff_K on February 28, 2008, 12:13:17 AM
Hi Retro,
You said that the car "appears to have been resprayed in the 1970's"
Looking at the inside, they appear to have done a good/complete job.
The inner doors, dash, steering column are all matching original spec.
Are there any traces of original colour scheme? If you find any I would like to see.
Cheers, Geoff_K


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: RET on February 28, 2008, 06:12:47 PM
You make a good point, Geoff.  It certainly has a very thorough covering of Elk Blue. Too thorough, really: the inner panels of the doors, the A-pillar covers and the B pillars would be Teal Blue (like your car and mine) if this car was originally a single-tone Special in Elk Blue.

The codes on the plate certainly agree with each other that it is BB over CG.

Shame really, the blue and grey combination would be quite unusual.

cheers
RET


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2008, 08:36:53 PM
Note that the car has a dark dash top, this would not be like this if the dash had original paint, it would extend onto the doors. There appears to be some paint on the column support rubber

Ken


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 29, 2008, 07:24:38 PM
guys, the paint is peeling off in places, more than welcome to check it out at anytime, pm me and ill give you an address.



Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: retro on February 29, 2008, 07:33:34 PM
OR if you are willing to make me a reasonable offer, im thinking of letting it go due to house moving, and renovations. call me on 0402946097


Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: Geoff_K on March 01, 2008, 08:18:49 AM
A follow up on the interior Paint Colours

All 1956 cars had colour matched Dash Tops (including ash tray lid)
On Standards and Business Models, this the Body Colour
On Specials it either matched the roof (some two tone schemes) or was a 'special' interior colour.
The dashtop colour extended to include upper doors, centre pillar (on two tone cars) and included the windscreen side garnish.
On this particular car (Breton Blue over Cadot Grey) the 'special' interior colour was the upper body colour - ie Breton Blue.
I would speculate that when the car was resprayed, everything except the dash top was resprayed Elk Blue.
The dash top was left because it was darker, and by this stage all FE-FC's (except for early FE's) had the standardised grey dash top.
Thus I believe the dash top is still (and it looks that way) Breton Blue.

Cheers
Geoff_K



Title: Re: sydneys 1648th fe holden
Post by: mcl1959 on March 01, 2008, 03:19:45 PM
Precisely Geoff, The respray on this car must have been quite a comprehensive job when done - but it must have been a few years ago now!

Ken