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Title: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: minifcvan on June 17, 2007, 10:42:00 AM
HI ALL WE ARE AFTER SOME NEW DOOR RUBBERS ECT. WHATS THE BEST FITTING ONES??
CHEERS MARK ;D ;D


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: Royal on June 17, 2007, 06:22:20 PM
Hi Mark
  When I replaced mine recently I got them from restorers hot line in Adelaide(www.netwarehouse.com.au) you can buy a custom made rubber that is quite easy to fit especialy on the rear doors where you have to go over the hinges, slightly dearer then standard one but not much.
 Part nos= l/f= ds1047
                 r/f=ds1046
                 l/r=ds1049
                 r/r=ds1048
 These are outer ones inner seem to be all the same, hope this helps. Just my experiance and I have no connectoin to them.
                         Cheers
                         Roy ;D


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: minifcvan on June 17, 2007, 10:51:54 PM
Thanks roy will check them out..cheers mark


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: NES304 on June 19, 2007, 08:39:33 AM
Mate,
  I have a kit from rares and I'm really happy with the channels in the doors, however, the rubbers around the doors and boot are too thick and think that I should have sourced them else where.....
NES


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: Crackers on June 21, 2007, 09:11:20 AM
Hey NES,

that's exactly what I am trying to avoid with the front doors as they are too thick from Rares and you have to cut them sometimes to get them to fit right.  But where else is there to get them?


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: craiga on June 21, 2007, 10:22:24 PM
When the rubbers are new they will always seem like they don't fit. It takes a little while for them to obtain the correct form required to both seal correctly and allow the door/boot to operate effectively.

Use adhesive sparingly (I always use superglue every 4-6"), this will allow them to move around and settle to the correct position under pressure from the panel.

Make sure the channel is COMPLETELY free of any old rubber or glue as this will hold the rubber higher than desired.

Be aware that the Rares door rubbers don't have any moulded areas around the top half of the door aperture, this is really an issue in two places, half way up the 'A' pillar where the guard/door/cowl meets, and half way up the 'B' pillar where the stop or bump rubber is.

At the 'A' pillar, splice in a different profile rubber that more closely matches the original profile - the Rares rubbers (and all others) don't have the right profile here and will always give problems - either by preventing the door closing properly or by rising above the body panels when the door is shut. The look of plenty of nice restored cars I've seen get ruined by this piece of rubber sitting proud.

(I don't have a picture of this area - possibly someone could post one?)

At the 'B' pillar, you'll need to cut a 'V' shape into the back of the rubber and glue it so it is tighter where the door is trying to shut at the change in angle on the 'B' pillar, just above the bump rubber in this photo

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/fc_58-59/FC%20Resto/rub7.jpg)

This is a NOS rubber I fitted but it clearly shows the desired profile. The Rares rubber sits very high here and will definitely stop the door closing properly.

If you a fully restoring a car Julius from the ACT club recommended slightly widening the door channel that the rubber sits in - this would allow the rubber to expand outwards under pressure from the door and seems like a very valid idea.

I have a new NOS boot rubber in my sedan and while it fits good in the channel its only marginally better than the Rares one.

Correcting ill fitting boot rubbers could be approached in the same way, widening the channel or at least adjusting the channel slightly downwards.

Another guy that does GT Falcons told me that he puts the rubbers in, lubes them up good, then adjusts the door striker/catch so he has to really slam the door. Leaves it for a few weeks, the rubber is set to shape, re-adjusts the door out slightly, and all is well. Another good tip.

You can get anyone's rubbers to fit, none of them fit out of the packet, just be patient and whatever you do, don't use contact adhesive!!!

Cheers,

Craig.


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: Crackers on June 21, 2007, 11:47:12 PM
That is a really good summary Craig.  Thanks for that.  Either I will have to follow your advice exactly or wait for Nos ones to appear, which is unlikely.

Thanks again mate.


Title: Re: BEST RUBBERS...(FOR CARS)
Post by: weddo on June 22, 2007, 01:16:09 AM
I fitted a full set of rubbers and bailey channels from Rares and yes they were a bit tight but by using a rubber conditioner and keeping every thing closed for a while did the trick. The only rubber I am not happy with  are the quarter light window rubbers as they are far too big. Craig A's comments are spot on.
regards
Weddo