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Technical Board => Modification Help => Topic started by: Phantom on May 11, 2006, 02:41:08 AM



Title: 186/202sump
Post by: Phantom on May 11, 2006, 02:41:08 AM
G'day all, do the 186 and 202 (reds) have the same shape sumps?
                    Cheers Rusty
                             


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: RET on May 11, 2006, 05:19:31 AM
Sump varies a bit depending on what vehicle it was fitted into, eg Torana and Kingswood sumps aren't the same.  For fitting into an FE or FC, you want the EH sump shape.

Hope that helps.

cheers
RET


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: Phantom on May 11, 2006, 06:17:44 AM
This 202 is out of a lx ? Torana, will i have to swap sumps over from my 186? and is the oil pickup the same in all reds?
                              Cheers Rusty


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: customFC on May 11, 2006, 09:14:31 AM
Hey Rusty.
You need the EH sump and pickup. If the 186 is in your FC now, you need to use that 1 as it would probably be the EH version.
The pickups are also different for each sump as they are shaped to pick up the oil from the lowest part of the pan.
Regards
Alex


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: Phantom on May 12, 2006, 02:27:13 AM
Thanks for the info blokes
                                  Cheers Rusty


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: Phantom on May 13, 2006, 04:26:47 AM
Are the pickups interchangable between 186 and 202 motors?
                                   Cheers rusty


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: RET on May 13, 2006, 05:32:42 AM
Again, it depends what the motor came out of.

The design of the pickup needs to suit the sump, and the shape of the sump is determined by the steering and cross-member of the vehicle.

That's why people generally sell them as a pair.  To put a red in an FE or FC, you need the EH sump and pickup.  I have heard there is a particular Torana configuration that also fits, but I'm not sure which, and it might only suit R&P steering setups.

cheers
RET


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: Phantom on May 13, 2006, 07:25:49 AM
Ret i have a 186 in my girl now , i am swapping the 186 for a  202 that came out of a LX torrie , i am swapping the sumps over will the pickup from the 186 fit the 202 motor?
                                     Cheers phantom


Title: Re: 186/202sump
Post by: RET on May 13, 2006, 09:26:50 AM
My bad, sorry.  Yes they are.

In NSW these days if you go over 200ci (even those 2 more cubes) you need collapsible steering column and assorted other mods.  That's why Geoff_K pulled the 202 out and put a 186 in to register his modified FE (BAY-255) for the Nats.

You don't have that rule in Vic, presumably.

cheers
RET