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Electronic ignition

Started by MattFC, May 05, 2011, 01:12:42 PM

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FC0058

Hi Pete
I left the dizzy in the car and completed all work where it sat.

I started the car this morning and reversed it into the into the garage so it worked before fittinf and started pretty easy (I drive this care almost daily)

I have just filed a little more of the vacuum bracket as it looked like it was a little close maybe even touching, I also tapped the magnet down this a deep socket to ensure it is seated correctly and turned the motor over by hand all looks good. Now I just need to wait for the battery to charge (sitting for the past coupla weeks) should have taken it for a decent drive before all the stop starts I have one in the last coupla days.

Fingers crossed. Cheers Jim
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

FC0058

Still no joy, almost fires up WT#

Jim
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

FCRB26

Hmmm sounds like fun

What is the coil you are using?

FC0058

Hi Pete

Already had a Bosch GT40 fitted.
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

ehsv6

Fitting this unit will alter the timing, its sounds like you have spark, so get someone to crank it while you turn the distributor a small amount in either direction and it should run - then stick a timing light on it, or do a tune by ear.

FC0058

ehsv6
I am hoping its just timing and a little tweek will have me on the road, the wife whinges an bleets when asked to help in the shed and has NFI.

Lucky for me Scott (Collecta) is going to drop over tomorrow to give me a hand getting the old girl started. I should really get me a timing light but these old girls are easy enough to do my ear in the short term.

Cheers Jim
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

FC0058

All
Thanks for the tips, Scott came over and the old girl is up an running.
First he noted that the vacuum bracket screw (original) and that the air gap could and should be larger. Ran a coupla tests bu removing rtainer screw and washer, and turned the old girl over and she wanted to run, so we did the following.
1. Filed more off the vacuum bracket to give more clearance (air gap).
2. Adjusted timing.
3. Went for a drive.
4. She lives again.

Thanks Scott  ;) I could have been here for days trying to figure out something so so simple.

Lesson file off a little more just to be sure.   

Cheers Jim   
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

collecta

 your welcome mate anytime ::)
i collect old holdens coz they never die!

KFH

My guess it is timing.  I had similar double with mine when I fitted.  Firstly take the centre wire out of the distributor cap and put the end on the steering box so as to create a spark gap. Turn the ignition on and turn the ignition and turn the engine over by hand and see if you have a spark. If there is spark check where the firing point is in relation to the timing ball on the flywheel.  If you have accidentally reversed the the module leads on the coil there is a good chance the module is buggered.  With the distributor cap off check where the rotor is, when a spark occurs, compared to the #1 position on the cap.  In my case I found that there was two positions that the magnetic ring could go on the shaft ie there was 12 apparent flats instead of 6.

I actually set my distributor up on the bench in a test mode and found the timing out by 23 degrees.  I made a special puller to remove the ring so as not to damage it.  All went well when the spark fired in the correct position.  Also in my case I found that there was not enough width in the gap on the base where the module to allow full travel of the vacuum advance.  A small was used to take a few extra mm,s out.

I hope this helps.

Keith
I was born with nothing and still have most of it left

KFH

BTW.  Did you disconnect the condenser?  Sorry about spelling in previous post.  The IPad is a little bit fiddly.
I was born with nothing and still have most of it left

FC0058

Hi Keith
Thanks for the advice, but problam already solved thanks to a little hand from Collecta. I basically need to file for off the vacuum bracket and adjust the timing.

Cheers Jim
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

collecta

you using your lap top again? lol
i collect old holdens coz they never die!

FC0058

You caught me out. I should read before posting in the future.
Forgiveness is easier than permission.

57effie


I am wanting to fit electronic ignition and have been looking at the early holden parts kit. Most of what I've read on here is about the petronix kit. Is there a difference in the two? Is one better than the other? There's about $40 difference between them.

RAY @ LAIDLEY

so what is the best brand/model and where can I purchase

mcl1959

Most people use the Pertronix kit, go with the majority I say!
Once it is sorted and running it gives hassle free motoring.

Ken