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no oil pressure

Started by freddyc, April 25, 2011, 10:07:30 AM

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freddyc

lost oil pressure yesterday, got towed to mates place. Checked there are no blockages, removed sender not pumping out. HELP any simple things I should try
regards fred
Townsville North Queensland

ACE

G'day Fred,
Take the distributor out and put a fairly large flat blade screwdriver down the distributor hole so it engages the oil pump then turn it clockwise and see if oil pumps from the oil sender hole.
Hope this helps ;)
Regards ACE  8)

freddyc

thanks Ace, removed dizzy found keyway has sheared off. I think oil pump has seized. Do I have to remove engine to replace????
regards fred
Townsville North Queensland

mcl1959

You should be able to remove it with the engine in the car. Drop the sump and it is fairly simply removed - what's more concerning is why it seized in the 1st place.

Ken

freddyc

Don't have an answer for that. Won't know till I get car home it's still 300kms away. Never had oil presure problems before, light went out straight away on start up, never came on, alway sat at 30 to 35 psi while driving. Time will tell.
regards fred
Townsville North Queensland

Paul In Ireland

You didn't have a sudden expulsion of oil before you started it last? Probably not cos that much oil would be easy to notice.
The International FE FC Fleet of Ireland
Education is where you read the fine print. Experience is what you get when you don't.

freddyc

Nothing unusual, still have all the oil.
Townsville North Queensland

freddyc

Trailered car home, now to try and fix. And its car show season in Nth Qld. Oh well have two others to take.
Townsville North Queensland

fe350chev

what was it? a lack of oil   ::), sorry. can u let us know as i have been wondering.
Deano

Current Rides: 1958 "Black and White Taxi" FC special Sedan, 1957 FE special Sedan, BA Futura,  2015 VF Commodore, 1956 Austin Tipper Truck

freddyc

Not a lack of oil, drained it yesterday am trying to take sump of at minute, I will keep you posted.
Townsville North Queensland

fe350chev

otherwise i will diw wondering, ive never heard of an oil pump freezing when u have full oil??? unless something broke, would be an unusual one though.
Deano

Current Rides: 1958 "Black and White Taxi" FC special Sedan, 1957 FE special Sedan, BA Futura,  2015 VF Commodore, 1956 Austin Tipper Truck

freddyc

OK if you are still alive, the problem was. I will tell you after this short comercial break.



One of th oil pump drive gears is in three pieces. Not the one one the shaft. Will now check a spare I have and install.
Townsville North Queensland

EffCee

Freddy,

That is so odd, I have never seen an oil pump gear fracture before. Was there any sign of debris or other foreign material in the oil pump to have jammed in between the gears to have caused the fracture?

Keith
Canberra, ACT

F4+ ;)

fe350chev

Keith ide be worried that is was foreign matter jamming. id suggest flush the engine a few times and check oil carefully. Also guys, what was the original filtration system for an fe grey, where do most people put spin on ones to and from? is there 1 place better than another?
Deano

Current Rides: 1958 "Black and White Taxi" FC special Sedan, 1957 FE special Sedan, BA Futura,  2015 VF Commodore, 1956 Austin Tipper Truck

EffCee

Quote from: fewithrb30 on May 06, 2011, 06:03:58 PM
Keith ide be worried that is was foreign matter jamming. id suggest flush the engine a few times and check oil carefully. Also guys, what was the original filtration system for an fe grey, where do most people put spin on ones to and from? is there 1 place better than another?

Grey engines did not have full flow oil filtration. Oil feed was picked up from the camshaft plugs along the distributor side of the block. To run a spin on type oil filter you must convert the oil feed system to a full filtration type which involves significant modification to the lubrication system.

Alex gives a indication on how it is done in his thread on Miss Behavin below

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,9227.0.html

HTH

Keith
Canberra, ACT

F4+ ;)

fe350chev

Deano

Current Rides: 1958 "Black and White Taxi" FC special Sedan, 1957 FE special Sedan, BA Futura,  2015 VF Commodore, 1956 Austin Tipper Truck

57effie

I had been thinking of putting full flow filter on mine. Was going to run a new line out of the pump, thru the block wall down low and towards the front tapping a thread thru. Mount a remote filter on the block like the bypass filter and return it back into the oil pressure switch gallery which is where the pump goes into the block anyway. Will need to plug the block where the pump line would go into. I think it would work.

Thoughts anyone or has anyone done it ?

Mark

EffCee

Alex (Custom FC) gives a indication on how it is done in his thread on "Miss Behavin" below:

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,9227.0.html

HTH

Keith
Canberra, ACT

F4+ ;)

57effie

Thanks for the thread Keith,

What a beautiful car.

That is what I had in mind.  Thought I had a brain storm but as I'm new around here anything I can think of you guys that have been doing it forever have already thought of it or done it.

Mark


Harv

Mark,

PM me your email address and I'll flick you a copy of some info I pulled together on full flow filtration. Alex's work was fantastic, and helped me understand the process better. I then went hunting for some more info (e.g. block drilling versus sump exit), and stuck it into the draft oil filter document (due for release shortly).

Cheers,
Harv.