Trimatic Conversion?

[spider]

 :) Hi To All,
                  I pulled out the 186 and trimatic out of a fe parts car and the cross member has not been cut ???.
It has a homemade bracket for the transmission and it has the dept of transport plate for the approvals. I cant understand how the trimatic went in without modification, it all looks standard. "ANY IDEAS".
Cheers Spider. 8)

[tmudie]

no,ideas, but i'd be interested in buying the bracket or at the very least having a look at the setup. are you in sydney?

tony

[spider]

 :)Hey Tony,
                   I live in queensland, I dont think i will sell the cross member but if I do you can have first option. If you like i will try and take some pictures of it and e-mail it to you during the week. The only way that i can gather that they did no chopping is if they made the rear of the gearbox sit low enough to clear the cross member. But if that was the case the tailshaft would be on a angle. Can you the tailshaft on a slight angle or does the tailshaft have to be perfectly straight. For example if you lower your car with blocks on the rear would that not change the angle of the tailshaft?
"Any Thoughts Would Be Great" :D
Cheers Spider

[gree]

the tailshaft is designed to work on a whole range of angles, so of course that wouldn't be a problem - unless the gearbox was so low that the distance between the output shaft and the diff became too great and the damn thing fell out!! (pole vault!!!) :-X

or the angle on the unis was too steep and put undue stress on the joints....

i'd be worried about those speed bumps though if the thing hung too low  ;D ;D ;D

[Effie C]

:) If you like i will try and take some pictures of it Cheers Spider

Spider
Any chance of posting the photos on this site, I think there would be a few interested people myself included to see how it was done.

Was the transmission tunnel cut, any sign of a EK (Auto)tunnel and crossmember having been welded in?

Thanks and look forward to pictures
John M

[brads59]

In reference to those speed humps......ie a certain gearbox crossmember that comes with a certain chassis kit that hits the damn speed humps if you lower your car.

[spider]

 :) Hi John,
                 The tunnel has not been touched, it is all standard. The bracket hangs down no lower than the exhaust system. It has got me buggered. The bracket that was made has everything on it, as in the handbrake cable attachments. It has been well made. The bracket could actually be shorter as they have a small spacer between
the gearbox and the crossmember. When i get some photos i will try to post them up on the site, so bear with me as i wont know what i am doing. ???
Cheers Spider. 8)

[RET]

Well I'm very interested in seeing this too, so if you have dramas posting the pix, email 'em to me and I'll sort it out for you.

cheers
RET

[sgo]

For the angle of the tailshaft the angle at the front uni should be the same as that at the rear uni, with maybe 2 degrees or so extra at the rear to allow for the twist of the diff as its under load while being driven?
I dont think that the unis should be straight, with no angle.

[air-chief]

In reference to those speed humps......ie a certain gearbox crossmember that comes with a certain chassis kit that hits the damn speed humps if you lower your car.

:o :o

You had trouble with yours Brad :-/  ???

[gree]

In reference to those speed humps......ie a certain gearbox crossmember that comes with a certain chassis kit that hits the damn speed humps if you lower your car.

damn  right! it is a very badly designed crossmember. i couldn't even get out of the driveway once i put my dropped spindles and 2" lowered springs in.

you can even see the crossmember that comes with the "kit" when you look at the car from the side  :-X pretty sucky i thought

i redesigned it and now it only hangs as low as the thickness of the metal and a bolt head below the gearbox mount (about 6mm) it raised my clearance by well over an inch.

i have attatched some low res drawings of the crossmember i designed, i can send people good quality versions if they are interested





it helped me out of the driveway anyway!  ;D


of course, this cross member only fits the chassis of that "certain" kit... not the standard fc one

PS. forgot to mention that this crossmember was designed for a celica 5 speed. not sure how other boxes mount up. i also moved the entire crossmember back about 30 to 40 mm along the chassis rails by drilling new mount holes

[Effie C]

Gee Spider you really have the thinking cap straining at this end, can't what to see what stroke of genius the "mighty blues"(You have to be queenslander or have lived there to understand) have come up with to make it all fit.
Look forward to pictures
John M

[air-chief]

Hey Gree

Did you also modify the tailshaft loop of this "certain" kit?


a-c

[gree]

nah, i took it (the tailshaft loop) off for the time being... it is one of those things i'll get to.... i don't do big burnouts or anything so i figured i am safe for the time being

[spider]

 :DHey Gree,
                     Would you mind sending me a copy of the drawing's.ctattoo@southpacificsolutions.com
Cheers mate,
                     Spider 8)

[RET]

Spider sent me some pix of this cross-member, as discussed, so here they are.

Seems to me the front of the motor must have been jacked up to buggery to get the tranny to fit under that tunnel, but I've been wrong before ::)

[spider]

 :)Thanks Ret,
                       I know the pictures are a bit dark and ret has made them alot better than what i sent him, so thankyou ret for doing that. The motor was siting on normal engine mounts, there were no spacers. So it has still got me buggered ???
Cheers
           Spider 8)

[spider]

 :( Hi Everyone,
                         Does anyone know what they might have done for this conversion, without cutting everything. "PLEASE SOMEONE MUST HAVE AN IDEA"
CHEERS Spider 8)

[gree]

maybe the motor was moved forward, so as to bring the lumpy part of the transmission into the open area of the tunnel....

where are the engine mounts welded to on the crossmember. they usually go right near the back of the crossmember on an hr front end. maybe yours are more forward...

just a guess anyway

[Effie C]

G'day Spider
Was the motor sitting at the normal height? Where the metal mounts on the actual crossmember the normal height or shortened? Only way I can see fitting the trimatic in.
Thou on another site they reckon it is possible to fit the trimatic in without modifying the manuel tunnel, looks like they where right.
Spider put the machine in mothballs as a truly unique machine ::)
See Ya at the Nationals
John M